Subj : Nodes location. Funny statistics.
To   : Wilfred van Velzen
From : Dmitry Protasoff
Date : Fri Aug 01 2025 03:04 pm

Hello, Wilfred!

Friday August 01 2025 13:40, you wrote to me:

 DP>> Which service, exactly? I've used ip-api.com, but most of those
 DP>> services rely on whois information whenever available. Give me
 DP>> the website of any service with a free API and I'll use it if you
 DP>> think it's more accurate.

 WV> On Linux there is the GeoIP library you could use.

Multiple different libraries. It's so unfortunate that I don't write Linux-only 
software, so I always use multiplatform libraries ;)
But the problem is not with the libraries - it's with the data they use.

 WV> At https://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/ you can download files that list
 WV> ip ranges for all countries. But you will have to write your own code
 WV> around it to get a country from an IP address.

But you wrote that the WHOIS data is not accurate. And this is exactly the 
aggregated WHOIS data:
https://www.ipdeny.com/copyright.php

You've changed your mind?

My sources (https://ip-api.com/docs/legal):

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We use multiple sources for populating our database, including BGP, RIR, ISP 
and data sharing agreements, geofeeds and latency-based tracking.
For some IP ranges we fallback to GeoLite2 data created by MaxMind, available 
from www.maxmind.com
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Not Google's database, but still better than just WHOIS.

 DP>> Sure, because many data centers are located in the Netherlands
 DP>> and those nodes are hosted there.

 WV> Maybe...

With modern clouds, it's even possible to host node in multiple countries 
simultaneously.

 WV> So I can check what countries are found with geoiplookup for IP's of
 WV> nodes that are not in R28. To satisfy my curiosity about the mismatch.
 WV> ;-)

Just checking if there's no hidden agenda ;)

From my local copy (it's 2 days old):

  *Germany is on the list because 1 node has 2 hostnames and one of them is in 
Germany.

==== Begin "NL.txt"  ====
Loaded 675 cached IP geolocations from ip_geolocation_cache.pkl
Fetching nodes with internet connectivity...
Using latest nodelist from 2025-07-30
Found 1058 nodes with internet connectivity

Analyzing IP addresses and geolocations...

Found 998 host entries from 973 nodes

Resolving 697 unique hostnames...

Processing 652 unique IP addresses:
  - 645 already in cache
  - 7 need API lookup

Getting geolocation for 7 uncached IP addresses...
Processing batch 1/1
Saved 682 IP geolocations to cache

================================================================================
FidoNet Node IP Geolocation Report
Filtered by Country: NL
================================================================================

Nodes in NL: 26
Nodes with IP addresses: 66
Nodes with hostnames: 913
Successfully resolved hostnames: 873
Failed hostname resolutions: 59

----------------------------------------
Country Distribution for NL:
----------------------------------------
The Netherlands                   23 nodes
Netherlands                        3 nodes
Germany                            1 nodes

----------------------------------------
Node Details for NL:
----------------------------------------

Node 1:275/91 - Fluph
  Sysop: Leslie_Given
  Location: Elkview_WV
  Hostname: fluph.zapato.org -> 5.39.216.238
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Hostkey B.V.

Node 1:275/92 - Fluph_test
  Sysop: Leslie_Given
  Location: Elkview_WV
  Hostname: fluph.zapato.org -> 5.39.216.238
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Hostkey B.V.

Node 1:275/94 - pure_fluph
  Sysop: Leslie_Given
  Location: Elkview_WV
  Hostname: fluph.zapato.org -> 5.39.216.238
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Hostkey B.V.

Node 2:28/0 - Nederland
  Sysop: Kees_van_Eeten
  Location: NL
  Hostname: fido.ddutch.nl -> 77.174.211.43
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Purmerend
    ISP: Concepts ICT B.V

Node 2:280/0 - Nederland(210)
  Sysop: Kees_van_Eeten
  Location: Heerhugowaard
  Hostname: fido.ddutch.nl -> 77.174.211.43
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Purmerend
    ISP: Concepts ICT B.V

Node 2:280/464 - FMail_DEV_fka_AOBL
  Sysop: Wilfred_van_Velzen
  Location: Lisse
  Hostname: fmailhq.fidoweb.net -> 45.83.243.76
    Country: Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Freedom Internet BV

Node 2:280/1049 - The_Coast
  Sysop: Simon_Voortman
  Location: NL
  Hostname: thecoastbbs.nl -> 87.195.129.44
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Beverwijk
    ISP: Solcon Internetdiensten B.V

Node 2:280/1203 - Randstad
  Sysop: Frank_de_Bruijn
  Location: NL
  Hostname: randstad.aconet.org -> 83.86.249.40
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: South Holland, City: The Hague
    ISP: ZIGGO

Node 2:280/1208 - UniCorn
  Sysop: Henri_Derksen
  Location: Arnhem
  IP: 77.174.89.46
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: South Holland, City: Delft
    ISP: Concepts ICT B.V.

Node 2:280/2000 - Alcatrash
  Sysop: Michael_Trip
  Location: Apeldoorn
  Hostname: fido.alcatrash.org -> 84.87.244.28
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Gelderland, City: Apeldoorn
    ISP: KPN B.V.

Node 2:280/2030 - Westland_BBS
  Sysop: Martien_Korenblom
  Location: Hoek_van_Holland
  Hostname: bbs.korenblom.nl -> 136.144.237.181
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Gelderland, City: Doorwerth
    ISP: TransIP BV

Node 2:280/2040 - Magic_Systems
  Sysop: Leo_Barnhoorn
  Location: Katwijk
  Hostname: bbs.magic-systems.net -> 86.88.76.77
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: South Holland, City: Katwijk
    ISP: KPN B.V.

Node 2:280/2050 - Postbus_7
  Sysop: Floris_van_Unen
  Location: Nieuw-Vennep
  Hostname: fido.unen.net -> 40.119.129.60
    Country: Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Microsoft Corporation

Node 2:280/2060 - AroundMyRoom's_Mailer
  Sysop: Dennis_Slagers
  Location: Apeldoorn
  Hostname: fidonet.aroundmyroom.com -> 213.93.173.212
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Gelderland, City: Apeldoorn
    ISP: Vodafone Ziggo

Node 2:280/5003 - Double_Dutch
  Sysop: Kees_van_Eeten
  Location: Heerhugowaard
  Hostname: fido.ddutch.nl -> 77.174.211.43
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Purmerend
    ISP: Concepts ICT B.V

Node 2:280/5555 - Nieuw_Schnoord
  Sysop: Michiel_van_der_Vlist
  Location: Driebergen
  Hostname: fido.vlist.eu -> 83.80.243.26
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Utrecht, City: Driebergen-Rijsenburg
    ISP: Vodafone Ziggo
  Hostname: fido4to6.vlist.eu -> 185.248.148.18
    Country: Germany (DE)
    Region: Hesse, City: Frankfurt am Main
    ISP: Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH & Co. KG

Node 2:5015/120 - Yurik_Station
  Sysop: Yuriy_Hashev
  Location: Nizhny_Novgorod
  Hostname: v1145709.hosted-by-vdsina.ru -> 77.246.105.33
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Servers Tech Fzco

Node 2:5019/400 - GaNJaNET_STaTi0N_II
  Sysop: Konstantin_Kuzov
  Location: Smolensk
  Hostname: fido.g0x.ru -> 5.255.103.168
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Flevoland, City: Dronten
    ISP: The Infrastructure Group B.V.

Node 2:5020/828 - f828.n5020.z2.binkp.net
  Sysop: Kirill_Temnenkov
  Location: Moscow
  Hostname: f828.n5020.z2.binkp.net -> 185.162.130.189
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Hosting purposes in NL

Node 2:5020/837 - Night_BBS
  Sysop: Kirill_Kaplin
  Location: Moscow
  Hostname: nightbbs.ru -> 89.150.34.50
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Clodo Cloud Service CO. L.L.C

Node 2:5030/3165 - The_Death_Of_Fire_Station
  Sysop: Serg_Podtynnyi
  Location: St.Petersburg
  Hostname: fidonet.podtynnyi.com -> 178.128.142.33
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: DigitalOcean, LLC

Node 2:5031/25 - BBBBs
  Sysop: Alex_Kazankov
  Location: Murmansk
  Hostname: fido.x86.su -> 185.125.230.67
    Country: Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: xorek.cloud International LTD

Node 2:5034/0 - KosNet
  Sysop: Vladimir_Bobarykin
  Location: Kostroma
  Hostname: fido.cryptonets.ru -> 185.247.18.40
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Timeweb, LLP

Node 2:5034/13 - Last_Station
  Sysop: Vladimir_Bobarykin
  Location: Kostroma
  Hostname: fido.cryptonets.ru -> 185.247.18.40
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: Timeweb, LLP

Node 2:5053/42 - ALT(r)_Co.
  Sysop: Aleksey_Tolmatsky
  Location: Saratov_Russia
  Hostname: altrco.hopto.org -> 195.246.110.223
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: North Holland, City: Amsterdam
    ISP: 365.partners INC

Node 4:801/201 - Clube_da_Insonia_BBS
  Sysop: Glauber_Rodrigues
  Location: Santo_Andre_SP
  Hostname: bbs.conf.eti.br -> 194.5.159.64
    Country: The Netherlands (NL)
    Region: Drenthe, City: Meppel
    ISP: Hostinger International Limited
==== End "NL.txt" ====


Best regards,
             dp.

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