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An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 10, No. 1 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor...............lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                            TABLE OF CONTENTS                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                            January 15, 2007HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]     Toad Hall Books and RecordsA2 BULLETIN BOARD at A2Central.com DISTILLATIONS----------------------[DAA]     Access to chat from web?-----------------------------------------[ATC]     Challenges-------------------------------------------------------[ACG]     Posting to the A2Central BB--------------------------------------[PBB]     Can't Read Messages Via Usenet-----------------------------------[CRU]     TextEdit Help----------------------------------------------------[TEH]     Making Some Noise------------------------------------------------[MSN]     SAFE 2.1.2 Released----------------------------------------------[SRD]     DiskMaker 8 Web Site Back Online---------------------------------[DBO]     Silver Platter and the Uther Card--------------------------------[SPU]     Uthernet Support in Sweet16?-------------------------------------[USS]     65816 Assemblers?------------------------------------------------[SFA]     Apple II game music remixes?-------------------------------------[GMR]LETTERS TO THE EDITOR-------------------------------------------------[LTE]     No Letters to the Editor This Month     An InvitationKFEST 2007------------------------------------------------------------[KF7]     KansasFest 2007--------------------------------------------------[KFS]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]-------------------------------         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson  email: lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org                        Toad Hall Books and Records                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Not far from the patio High Above The Rock River you can find a niftystore... Toad Hall Books and Records.     Looking for something different to give to your brother for hisbirthday?  You might want to shop at this store.  Actually if you have somecollectables that you want to get rid of, bring them with you... you mightbe able to trade them for an item you want.     The name of the store is somewhat misleading... items availableinclude old books, vinyl records, sheet music, vintage board games, classicmovie posters... even wall mounts (deer head, etc.).     Allow plenty of time for browsing... the store occupies 8000 squarefeet on three floors.     The owners are collectors in their own right... they have a collectionof about 110,000 45 rpm vinyl records.     Reminds me of people who collect Apple II computers and software.[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA][DAA]-------------------------------------------------------DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 Bulletin Board at A2Central.com  |------------------------------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson  email: lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org[ATC]Access to chat from web?"""""""""""""""""""""""">> I've noticed that there is some multi node chat capability with the BBSsoftware (as the "Who's Online" shows people in this mode), however Ihaven't seen any way to enter this mode from the web interface. Is itpossible to enter the chat from the web?Is the chat functionality necessary given that there is now an irc serverdedicated for this activity?Regards, Andrew <<Andrew,One of the things you can try is a Web based IRC client.  I've found thisone works pretty decently:http://www.ircatwork.com/Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W, L.C.S.W.(rsuenaga, a2c.general_chat, Dec 17 2006)[EOA][ACG]Challenges""""""""""There's been a fair bit of talk over at the 68KMLA ( www.68kmla.net ) inadvance of the 2007 RetroChallenge proposed for July of next year.Unfortunately the discussion has already devolved into the usualdirectionless bickering.With that in mind, I'm proposing an informal challenge of my own for thiscoming January. There will be no hard rules and no winners will bedeclared... I'm more interested in getting people to do something otherthan talk about doing something.Here are the challenges:Creative Challenge==================Do something creative with a "retro" computer*. It can be anything:graphics, music, programming, hardware hacks... whatever floats your boat.Endurance Challenge===================(For hardcore retroputists only) See how long you can make exclusive use ofa "retro" computer. Just for personal use -- I don't expect anyone to lugan Apple III into the workplace. No complicated scoring, just see what youcan do... if you can't manage the whole month, shoot for a week.The challenge starts January 1st, 2007 and will run until the 31st. Anyonetaking up the challenge is welcomed to email me at bb065@chebucto.ns.ca,I'll keep up a running "progress report" and document all the entriesduring the first week of February.You can be involved in either challenge, or both. And please bear in mindthat it's not about WINNING, it's about PARTICIPATING.Simon WIlliams* For the sake of simplicity, a "retro" computer that is any computergenerally considered obsolete.  Use your common sense.._____.|[LD8]! ====== 8-BIT SOUND & FURY ======|  o. | APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES!__!__! http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org/(Luddite, a2c.community, Dec 17 2006)[EOA][PBB]Posting to the A2Central BB"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Sean,I can read the BB here via a standard USENET reader however you're not setup here for posting messages.  Do you plan to allow for that in the nearfuture?  I think it would really help promote this BB.-- Mark(Mark Percival, a2c.community, Dec 26 2006)>>>>>"""""Mark, you need to have an account set up on www.a2central.com, have yournewsreader sign you in with your username and password, and posting will beopen to you...Ewen(Speccie, a2c.community, Dec 27 2006)>>>>>"""""Ah...  It works!  Thanks Ewen.-- Mark(Mark Percival, a2c.community, Dec 27 2006)[EOA][CRU]Can't Read Messages Via Usenet""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I can't seem to read the messages here via Usenet. I'm using Thoth on aMac. I can see the message headers, but when I try to read them I get anerror that the message could not be found on the server. I have Thoth setto authenticate using my A2Central.com name and password. Any ideas?Tony Ward(TonyW, a2c.community, Dec 29 2006)>>>>>"""""An obvious question, but have you created a new account with the newwww.a2central.com? The names and passwords from Sheppy's original systemwill not work.Thoth reads messages just fine for me as soon as I enter my new name andpassword, but gives the error you describe if not.Personally, I find MacSOUP an easier client than Thoth for text newsgroups.Ewen(Speccie, a2c.community, Dec 30 2006)>>>>>"""""Now I have a different problem. I tried resetting my a2central.com passwordand now I can't logon to the web site anymore with my TonyW account. I usedcut-and-paste so I know I typed the password correctly, but the site won'taccept it.So I created this second account and tried using it with Thoth to read themessages. Same problem as before. It seems to be authenticating properlybecause if I intentionally enter an incorrect password into Thoth I get theauthentication error, but not when I use the correct password.Tony Ward(TonyW1, a2c.community, Dec 30 2006)>>>>>"""""After I set up my account back in November, the Web-side worked fine, but Iwas not able to log into the telnet side.  Since there was no reason to usethe telnet interface, I didn't pursue the issue.  I just checked the telnetside now and I was able to authenticate.  Perhaps there is a disconnectbetween the multiple login interfaces and requires 24+ hours tosynchronize?Geoff(geoff, a2c.community, Dec 31 2006)>>>>>""""">> Perhaps there is a disconnect between the multiple login interfaces andrequires 24+ hours to synchronize? <<I thought about that too, but it's two days later and I still can't getUsenet authentication to work. And after changing the password on my TonyWaccount, I still can't access it either.Tony Ward(TonyW1, a2c.community, Dec 31 2006)>>>>>""""">> Now I have a different problem. I tried resetting my a2central.compassword <<Rather than creating a dupe account, let's fix your old one and move on.Interesting glitch I've had reported twice before, people copy/pastingtheir password from a telnet session to the HTTP signon fails for somereason. Typing it in works though.The telnet side will let you login as your user id number, alias or firstlast names then password.The HTTP side only accepts your alias and password.And when someone says A2Central web site... there are two "a2central"sites, the portal where the news is, and the BBS one. Being two completelydifferent sites, they have different passwords, and so I'm always wonderingwhich password someone reset, when they say they reset their a2central.compassword.  You either reset the portal password (where the news is) or thebbs (where we are now). Which one did you reset?I don't know anything about Thoth - never tried it. I authenticate usingThunderbird with zero problems. I'll look into Thoth though.(sfahey, a2c.community, Jan 01 2007)>>>>>""""">> After I set up my account back in November, the Web-side worked fine,but I was not able to log into the telnet side. <<No, you apparently had trouble with the verifier I had back then, which hassince been put out of my (our) collective misery. I manually upgraded youraccount for the telnet side.(sfahey, a2c.community, Jan 01 2007)>>>>>""""">> Rather than creating a dupe account, let's fix your old one and move on.<<I didn't want to create another account, but since I couldn't logon withthe old one this was my only choice.  I'd love to go back to the TonyWaccount once we figure out what's going on here.I don't think I have ever created an account on the news portal side.Everything I'm talking about here has to do with the Message Groups (BBS)account. I have never logged on via telnet, only via the web interface. Andwhen I say "copy and paste," what I mean is I typed out a random string ofletters and numbers in a word processor, copied it, and pasted it into thepassword fields when I changed the password. It just an easy way to makerandom passwords without worrying about typos.Anyway, the TonyW account worked fine on the web side while I was using thedefault password that you sent in email after I created the account. Iwanted to change that password, so I used the above copy and paste methodbut now I can no longer access the TonyW account (neither the old nor thenew password works.) That's why I'm using this (hopefully) temporary TonyW1account.Neither account works with Usenet. For this temporary account I'm using"TonyW1" as the name, and the default password that was sent to me inemail. Using Thoth I can see all the groups, I can see the message headers,but I cannot read the messages.Here are what should be the relevant entries from the Thoth log:M   01/01/2007 20:48:57  R 75.35.59.6 119 49235 200 A2Central.com News(Synchronet 3.13a-Win32 NNTP Service 1.91)M   01/01/2007 20:48:57  C 75.35.59.6 119 49235 authinfo user TonyW1M   01/01/2007 20:48:57  R 75.35.59.6 119 49235 381 More authenticationrequiredM   01/01/2007 20:48:57  C 75.35.59.6 119 49235 authinfo pass *******M   01/01/2007 20:48:57  R 75.35.59.6 119 49235 281 AuthenticationsuccessfulSo far so good. The authentication looks fine. Next it sends me the list ofnewsgroups, which I won't post here. Then this:M   01/01/2007 20:55:34  C 75.35.59.6 119 49237 NEWGROUPS 20061231 085314M   01/01/2007 20:55:34  R 75.35.59.6 119 49237 231 list of new newsgroupsfollowsAL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  C 75.35.59.6 119 49237 GROUP a2c.hardwareAL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  R 75.35.59.6 119 49237 211 1 1 1 a2c.hardwaregroup selectedAL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  C 75.35.59.6 119 49237 XOVER 1-1AL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  R 75.35.59.6 119 49237 224 Overview informationfollowsAL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  C 75.35.59.6 119 49237 LIST ACTIVE a2c.hardwareAL  01/01/2007 20:55:42  R 75.35.59.6 119 49237 215 list of newsgroupsfollowsM   01/01/2007 20:55:43  C 75.35.59.6 119 49237 ARTICLE 1M   01/01/2007 20:55:43  R 75.35.59.6 119 49237 430 no such article found:1As you can see, I selected "a2c.hardware" and got the list of messages. Thelast two lines are my attempt to read the one article in that group, andthe resulting error.Tony Ward(TonyW1, a2c.community, Jan 01 2007)>>>>>""""">> No, you apparently had trouble with the verifier I had back then, whichhas since been put out of my (our) collective misery. I manually upgradedyour account for the telnet side. <<Oh, that's right.  I verified my account via the Web and didn't feel likegoing through another verification for the telnet-side.  Sorry to hear thatyou had to manually edit users' accounts.  But, thank you for adjusting myaccount so I can access via telnet if I ever need to.Geoff(geoff, a2c.community, Jan 02 2007)>>>>>"""""Okay, my TonyW account is working again. Thanks, Sean.I am posting this via NNTP with Unison, so obviously my Thoth problem hassomething to do with a preference out of whack or something. I'll look intoit and see if I can figure it out.Tony Ward(TonyW, a2c.community, Jan 06 2007)[EOA][TEH]TextEdit Help"""""""""""""Using ORCA/Pascal (as always :), I have some data in a TextEdit controlthat I'd like to append as plain text to a text file.  Clearly I need touse TEGetText in order to do this, but I haven't used this call before.Assuming I want to get the text in a handle, I think I'd be doing somethinglike this:lengthtTE := TEGetText($19, @myTEHandle, 0, 0, nil, nil);but once I do that, how do I get what's in myTEHandle into plain text andappend it to a file?Any help appreciated...Ryan(rsuenaga, a2c.a2pro_developers, Dec 30 2006)>>>>>"""""I am unfamiliar with that way of describing the call, being an assemblerman myself, and it is some time since I extracted text directly. I thinkwhat you need to do is this:bufferdescriptor = $0000 bufferRef is a Pointerbufferdescriptor = $0001 bufferRef is a HandledataFormat = $0005 rText format (unformatted block)dataFormat = $0025 rText Format (unformatted block) selection onlyEwen(Speccie, a2c.a2pro_developers, Dec 30 2006)>>>>>"""""Ryan Writes:>> Using ORCA/Pascal (as always :), I have some data in a TextEdit controlthat I'd like to append as plain text to a text file.  Clearly I need touse TEGetText in order to do this, but I haven't used this call before.Assuming I want to get the text in a handle, I think I'd be doing somethinglike this:  lengthtTE := TEGetText($19, @myTEHandle, 0, 0, nil, nil);but once I do that, how do I get what's in myTEHandle into plain text andappend it to a file?Any help appreciated...Ryan <<That doesn't look right.You need to allocate 4 bytes of memory before calling TEGetText (and passthe memory address for bufferRef).  This is memory space to hold the handlelocation that TEGetText will allocate for you.  Make sure you free thememory that you used for bufferRef after the TEGetText call.I think you will also prefer to have the dataFormat as unformatted text(%101) instead of LETextBox2 (%100).Your code will look like this (leaving the missing parts in quotes as anexercise to the reader): teTempHndl := "Allocate 4 bytes of memory" teTempPtr := "Dereference teTempHndl handle" lengthtTE := TEGetText($1D, teTempPtr, 0, 0, 0, @myTEHandle); teTextPtr := "dereference handle stored at teTempPtr" "save text at teTextPtr with length lengthtT" "free handle created by TEGetText" "free teTempHndl" You may find it easier to write the code where you pull the charcount fromteGetTextInfo, allocate your own handle for the text, and do lengthtTE :=TEGetText($D, myTextHandle, 0, 0, 0, @myTEHandle);There is less dereferencing and less memory allocating/freeing, reducingcode complexity.  But, you can do whatever you want.Geoff(geoff, a2c.a2pro_developers, Dec 31 2006)>>>>>""""">> Using ORCA/Pascal (as always :), I have some data in a TextEdit controlthat I'd like to append as plain text to a text file.  Clearly I need touse TEGetText in order to do this, but I haven't used this call before.Assuming I want to get the text in a handle, I think I'd be doing somethinglike this:   lengthtTE := TEGetText($19, @myTEHandle, 0, 0, nil, nil);but once I do that, how do I get what's in myTEHandle into plain text andappend it to a file?  Any help appreciated...Ryan <<Here's some C code (error checking left as an exercise to the reader_ towrite TextEdit text to a plain text file.  This writes it to a *new* file(more on that in a bit).      h = NewHandle(1, MyID, 0, NULL);      total = TEGetText(teDataIsTextBlock+refIsHandle*8, (Ref)h,        0, 0, (Ref)0, teH);      DestroyDCB.pCount = 1;      DestroyDCB.pathname = gstr;      DestroyGS(&DestroyDCB);      CreateDCB.pCount = 4;      CreateDCB.pathname = gstr;      CreateDCB.access = 0xC3;      CreateDCB.fileType = 4;      CreateDCB.auxType = 0;      CreateGS(&CreateDCB);      if (_toolErr) { ... }      OpenDCB.pCount = 15;      OpenDCB.pathname = gstr;      OpenDCB.requestAccess = writeEnable;      OpenDCB.resourceNumber = 0;      OpenDCB.optionList = NULL;      OpenGS(&OpenDCB);      if (_toolErr) { ... }      CloseDCB[0] = 1;      CloseDCB[1] = OpenDCB.refNum;      if (total)      {        WriteDCB.pCount = 4;        WriteDCB.refNum = OpenDCB.refNum;        WriteDCB.dataBuffer = *h;        WriteDCB.requestCount = total;        WriteGS(&WriteDCB);        if (_toolErr) { .... }      }      CloseGS(CloseDCB);---The above code writes to a new file, deleting any previous file (I don'tbother checking DestroyGS for errors since the only reasonable errors arefileNotFound (which is ok) or file is read only (in which case we'll catchthe error later).To append to an existing file, try to create a file (as above).  if you geta dupPathname error, the file already exists.  I don't recall offhand ifopening a file with write access will automatically append to the end ofthe file or overwrite the existing contents... in which case you would needto use SetMarkGS to move to the end of the file.Kelvin.(kws, a2c.a2pro_developers, Jan 01 2007)[EOA][MSN]Making Some Noise"""""""""""""""""Spent a good deal of time in the studio yesterday recording some Apple IImusic... using mainly Timelord for drums/bass and DX-1 for "real-time"stuff.  Although it's structurally just 3-chord punk, I'm finding the soundis really very close to a lot of hard techo that I've heard... especiallywhen you start twiddling the EQ during playback for a low budget flangereffect.I can envision 3 or 4 Apple II's providing a pretty solid rhythm sectionfor live performances... now I just need to find a venue ;-)._____.|[LD8]! ====== 8-BIT SOUND & FURY ======|  o. | APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES!__!__! http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org/(Luddite, a2c.music_multimedia, Jan 07 2007)[EOA][SRD]SAFE 2.1.2 Released"""""""""""""""""""PRESS RELEASESAFE2 - Version 2.1 first releaseIf you are running Marinetti on your IIgs, SAFE2 is the fastest, andeasiest way of transferring files, either to or from another computer, to aweb server, or from file libraries such as A2Central.SAFE2 uses the Internet standard FTP protocol.SAFE2 is FreeWare, and was written by Ewen Wannop, the author of Spectrum.Get your copy today from:    http://homepage.mac.com/speccie/New features in 2.1.2:Manual download of a file directly from a given path.Sending and receiving hierarchical directories is now activated. If adirectory is highlighted, the entire contents will be sent or received, andany further subdirectories down the chain will also be sent or received.If you delete a directory from either the home or the away folder, anyenclosed hierarchical directories, and their contents will also be deleted.Optional AppleSingle encoding while uploading is now supported. Thispreserves file and auxtypes, dates, and resource forks.Optional automatic decoding of AppleSingle, BinSCII, Binary II, BinHEX 4.0,MacBinary, UUencode, and Base64 (MIME) files is now supported.Bug fixes in 2.1.2:The 'empty directory' problem is now fixed. All known hosts now respondcorrectly.A number of other bugs have been fixed, and some interface tweaks have beenmade.(Speccie, a2c.software, Dec 22 2006)[EOA][DBO]DiskMaker 8 Web Site Back Online""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""DiskMaker 8's web site is back online.  Now athttp://mark.gamebits.net/DM8/A big thanks to Ken Gagne to hosting the web site.-- Mark(Mark Percival, a2c.software, Jan 05 2007)[EOA][SPU]Silver Platter and the Uther Card"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Does anyone know if Silver Platter works with the Uther card? I have anurge to set up an A2 web server ;-)._____.|[LD8]! ====== 8-BIT SOUND & FURY ======|  o. | APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES!__!__! http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org/(Luddite, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 07 2007)>>>>>"""""If you are using the Uthernet card in a IIgs, and running it through thelatest Marinetti, with the Uthernet Link Layer which I worked on (get itfrom the Uthernet site), then anything you run that understands Marinetti,will work.Ewen(Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 07 2007)>>>>>"""""Hi Simon,Yes Silver Platter works with Uthernet/Marinetti ...Glenn(a2retro, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 07 2007)>>>>>"""""Cool! Does anyone have a publicly accessible IIgs server up yet? I have aan Uthernet card coming and although I hadn't really thought about what Iwould do with it (other than Contiki, of course), a full-time IIgs webserver would be pretty cool, methinks.._____.|[LD8]! ====== 8-BIT SOUND & FURY ======|  o. | APPLE ][ AUDIO & MUSIC RESOURCES!__!__! http://8bitsoundandfury.ld8.org/(Luddite, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 07 2007)>>>>>"""""(Sheppy, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 07 2007)>> Does anyone know if Silver Platter works with the Uther card? <<I've got an Uther on the way.  It should work no problem.  I am curious tofind out if the stability problems when sharing your GS out over theInternet as opposed to just on your LAN are with the LANceGS driver orMarinetti itself.  I suspect I'll know soon. :)Sheppy[EOA][USS]Uthernet Support in Sweet16?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""">> Sheppy wrote: I've got an Uther on the way. <<Hi Eric,I take you were getting one of the cards via Sean?Do you have any interest in adding Uthernet support to Sweet16?Glenn(a2retro, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 10 2007)>>>>>"""""Sweet16 is an OS X application, so could not support the Uthernet carddirectly, but it would be possible for Sweet16 to interface with theEthernet within OS X, in the way other emulators do.Ewen(Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 11 2007)>>>>>"""""Hi Ewen,I think we are thinking along the same lines.The C64 VICE emulator had CS8900A support added to it by Spiro Trikaliotis.I used that source to add the same support to AppleWin.Eric could use the same code to add that support to Sweet16 although itwould have to be changed to use libpcap vs winpcap.Glenn(a2retro, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 11 2007)>>>>>"""""Glenn,Practically, it is Marinetti support that is really more important on anemulated IIgs, than a specific interface.The Uthernet Link Layer is transparent to an application, so all Sheppyneed do is write a new Link Layer, that interfaces directly through to theEthernet routines in OS X. With that in place, any application on theemulated IIgs that knows about Marinetti, would be able to talk to theoutside world.I know Sheppy has thought about this, and has it on his 'wish list'. Weshall all have to be patient till he can find time to get round to it.It is one of the features I would love, as it would mean there would be noneed for me to transfer code to a real IIgs, and would speed up developmentfor me dramatically.As all my working Macs run OS 9.0 in Classic mode, and have no floppy diskdrives, or active serial ports, it was the need to transfer assembled filesfrom a Mac to a real IIgs, that was the spur for me to create SAFE2.However, a direct serial card equivalent for Sweet16, to allow access tothe dialup routines within OS X, would allow those who do not have a LAN orDSL, to also go online. In my book, that is not as important a function asMarinetti support.Ewen(Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 12 2007)>>>>>"""""HI Ewen,If Eric was to implement the cs8900a interface in the emulator like I havein AppleWin then the existing LL driver already developed <grin> could beused as is .... The only issue i see ... beyond taking the time to do it... it that the code is GPL and I expect that Sweet16 is not ... so perhapsyour suggestion is the better approach in this particular case...CheersGlenn(a2retro, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 12 2007)>>>>>"""""Glenn,I now see what you are suggesting. It would indeed save writing a new LinkLayer, but would add one more step to getting the data in and out.In any case, it should only be a matter of adapting existing code, such asthe Uthernet Link Layer, to address a virtual port, which then interfaceswith the Ethernet routines in OS X.As I have no experience of working with OS X at that level, I leave toSheppy's superior knowledge to decide how best it should be done...Ewen(Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Jan 12 2007)[EOA][SFA]65816 Assemblers?"""""""""""""""""How many native 816 assemblers are there?Offhand, I know of:Orca/APWMerlinLisa 816NinjaForce AssemblerQuickAsm (never released?)Micol Macro AssemblerAre there any others? (not counting the mini assembler or toy assemblerswritten in AppleSoft that use bizarre syntax...)Kelvin.(kws, a2c.a2pro_developers, Dec 16 2006)>>>>>"""""Those are the only ones I'm aware of...Sheppy(Sheppy, a2c.a2pro_developers, Jan 03 2007)[EOA][GMR]Apple II game music remixes?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I was disappointed when I looked through OCR and couldn't find anyA2-related music.  (There is one remix from Out Of This World though.  Iassume the music was in the IIgs version, I don't recall for sure).I converted the music from The Immortal to MIDI format, but it was so busyand the original samples might not have been tuned correctly, so it doesn'tsound too good.  I took a couple stabs at doing a remix of it, but I didn'tlike the way it turned out.I had better luck making midi files of the Pirates! music (here -http://ksherlock.com/pirates/).  Unfortunately, most of them are only acouple bars long and don't naturally lend themselves to remixing.Kelvin.(kws, a2c,music_multimedia, Dec 15 2006)>>>>>"""""The "Out of This World" remix is based on the PC/Amiga version (not the GSand Super Nintendo score), so the tune is unrecognizable to most Apple IIgsusers. Mind you, while there are no specific Apple II remixes to be foundon the OCR site, you _will_ find some familiar remixes here and there fromgames in common from other platforms, e.g.: Marble Madness, Rastan, GrandPrix Challenge, Test Drive II, Lemmings, Ancient Land of Y's, Skate or Die,Space Harrier, Paperboy to name some.Here's one example you might recognize:http://remix.kwed.org/?search_id=2198I converted the end theme from Karateka (8-bit Apple II) into a MIDI file,which sounded nice but I need to clean it up and do something with it. Alsowas toying with the idea of doing some remixes for Thexder on the IIgs(it'd be perfect for a techno remix!), Tass Times, Winter Games, and AlienMind. I was thinking of the Alien Mind theme of a few months back and did asort of music doddling/experimenting...sort of an idea for a possible remixI guess. It's on my hard drive somewhere...(Mitchell Spector, a2c,music_multimedia, Dec 16 2006)[EOA][LTE]-------------------------------             LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |------------------------------------NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.[EOA]AN INVITATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of theApple II computers.Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot orgThe Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][KF7]------------------------------                       KFest 2007 |-----------------------------------[KFS]KansasFest 2007"""""""""""""""is scheduled for July 17-22, 2007.Go to <http://www.kfest.org> for details.[EOA][INN]------------------------------                    EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   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