date: Tue 03 Mar 2026 09:02:53 PM PST subj: CA Assembly Bill No. 1043 insanity stupidity ----------------------------------------------------- Dumb asses, the entire premiss of the bill is FALSE. Like all dogs have four legs, therefor no three legged dogs exist. Computers with an OS doesn't mean it has the hardware to access the internet where the source of the concern and the need for protection exists. This is why the bill is so stupid. A computer doesn't intrinsically have the internet, same with mobile computing devices. The fucking internet is a completely separate thing. Dumb ass politicians seem to think their computer or OS contains the internet, :< :( or who knows what they think. ---------------------------------- GAvin Newsom, let me fix your bill. Persons under 18 years of age, are forbidden, and not allowed to use computers. ---------------------------------- I can't believe where we are at today in the realm of computing. I think I'm in full on denial and still in a dream world from 1984, computers are toys, at best tools, and the ones and zeros represented by electrons flowing through them are up to interpretation and reinterpretation at any moment. But I'm finding they are really serious enough to warrant the governor of CA signing into law a bill towards draconian proportion at the level of general purpose computers. Your computer isn't your computer any more, its subject to laws, this is beyond mere terms and conditions. Its your computer, but you can't use it personally anymore. REally those stupid terms and conditions I usually ignore, now have before them scary laws, that I will also ignore, now at the hardware level from the state, but somehow the OS and application. I really can't believe the utter stupidity of the governor and the people around him who helped push his bill into existence. I only give him and is minions props for putting in an effort to help curtail the other ongoing insanity and stupidity of social media and its ilk. I honestly didn't really believe in the current idea we are in a state of dystopian. I wonder if we are truly on track to create and live in the scifi book, A Brave New World, but it seems we are. Maybe I'm still asleep and this is all a fantastic dream. On the first order, computing and most of the internet in my mind is a joke. Its not real its bits made up and all it takes to have it vanish is the on off switch moved to the off position, and with that act poof its all gone. The (internet bits) aint like the side walks next to the road with single person cars, and the delivery trucks with cargo zooming past us all day, actually real moving metal. This stuff you're reading may not be here in an instant from now. So how we got to stupid govs putting in stupid laws for fake worlds of bits has gotten to a level of belief in virtualality and electrons, leads me to a strange idea that some peoples minds are still locked in an online social media virtual life playing the internet video game, believing its is reality. They are actually trying to make it reality. Its not real, and that is the part I actually like, its mutability, morphability. I still can't believe people believe in the fiat money system and things like bitcoin, but they do and its the world in which we are living in, its kinda a strange joke. On the second order, word shit like this that attempts to define aspects of computing: (c) “Application” means a software application that may be run or directed by a user on a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device that can access a covered application store or download an application. Basically internet accessible, but not limited to it. Imagine local downloads from your LAN, while accessible by the public via their computer. ---------------------- (e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing that can access a covered application store or can download an application. Without further definition what is a general purpose computer? Would that include anything with a CPU, RAM, and some form of storage? ----------------------- (2) “Covered application store” does not mean a online service or platform that distributes extensions, plug-ins, add-ons, or other software applications that run exclusively within a separate host application. How does one define a ADD-ONS? -------------------------- idiot -------------------------- (f) “Developer” means a person that owns, maintains, or controls an application. Controls an application, isn't a user now a developer? I'm controlling vim to edit this document, now I"m a developer, Kinda like I control a radio control car, I'm now the developer of the radio control car, but when I stop controlling it, I'm no longer the developer. -------------------------- idiot -------------------------- (g) “Operating system provider” means a person or entity that develops, licenses, or controls the operating system software on a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. Now we are all operating system providers. I"m controlling 'ls' therefor I'm now an OS provider. -------------------------- idiot -------------------------- Third order, I don't think I can get into how a commodore 64 (ultimate) that received an update to its OS can suddenly start providing A ACCOUNT SETUP! Mr. Newsom ! come on open your head up and do some actual research before you dream up a way to be laughed out of office next year. Or have every tech innovation leave your state! OK take a look here at the words: Since I controlled vim, and ls on a computer my obligations to CA are as follows.: 1798.501. (a) An operating system provider shall do all of the following: (1) Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store. ------------------------- Commander X16 looks like you've got some more work to do on your computer. Old MS Dos looks like whoever is providing use of that OS better get ready to pay up if a person under 18 uses it. Commodore 64 ultimate ... has more work to do, for all firmware updates. Imagine trying to implement a user login for my computer running MSDos so when I go to a location that has a covered store, or in other words download something not a Add On, or plugin, I'm to implement a multi user aspect to my single user mode systems, because they are general purpose computers, because I installed a recently updated driver on my 30+ year old OS. WE are all to become API developers or fines fines fines. ------------------------- 1798.502. (a) With respect to a device for which account setup was completed before January 1, 2027, an operating system provider shall, before July 1, 2027, provide an accessible interface that allows an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store. \ *********> \ below gets a bit stupid for sure. All applications between 1/1/2026 and 1/1/2027 look like they have no obligation at all, and there is no mention of any obligation after those dates for systems before 1/1/2027, \ \ **************> / 1798.502. (b) If an application last updated with updates on or after January 1, 2026, was downloaded to a device before January 1, 2027, and the developer has not requested a signal with respect to the user of the device on which the application was downloaded, the developer shall request a signal from a covered application store with respect to that user before July 1, 2027. 1798.503. (a) A person that violates this title shall be subject to an injunction and liable for a civil penalty of not more than two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per affected child for each negligent violation or not more than seven thousand five hundred dollars ($7,500) per affected child for each intentional violation, which shall be assessed and recovered only in a civil action brought in the name of the people of the State of California by the Attorney General. (b) An operating system provider or a covered application store that makes a good faith effort to comply with this title, taking into consideration available technology and any reasonable technical limitations or outages, shall not be liable for an erroneous signal indicating a user’s age range or any conduct by a developer that receives a signal indicating a user’s age range. 1798.504. (a) This title does not modify, impair, or supersede the operation of any antitrust law. (b) This title does not require the collection of additional personal information from device owners or device users other than that which is necessary to comply with Section 1798.501. Make sure you are only required to do what the fucking law says, not what it doesn't say. Now shit! ---------------------- ..... (f) This title does not apply to any of the following: ..... (g) This title does not impose liability on an operating system provider, a covered application store, or a developer that arises from the use of a device or application by a person who is not the user to whom a signal pertains. *****> Who is actually liable in this bill? The user? Looks like no developer is liable, and no OS provider is liable because they are not the user to who the age signal pertains to. ----------------------- 1798.505. This title shall become operative on January 1, 2027. . . . . . . . . . .. ... .... ..... ...... ....... ........ ......... .......... --------------------------------------------------- HERE IS THE ENTIRE BILL: ------------------------ Bill Text AB-1043 Age verification signals: software applications and online services.(2025-2026) Bill Start Assembly Bill No. 1043 CHAPTER 675 An act to add Title 1.81.9 (commencing with Section 1798.500) to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, relating to consumer protection. [ Approved by Governor October 13, 2025. Filed with Secretary of State October 13, 2025. ] LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 1043, Wicks. Age verification signals: software applications and online services. Existing law generally provides protections for minors on the internet, including the California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act that, among other things, requires a business that provides an online service, product, or feature likely to be accessed by children to do certain things, including estimate the age of child users with a reasonable level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the data management practices of the business or apply the privacy and data protections afforded to children to all consumers and prohibits an online service, product, or feature from, among other things, using dark patterns to lead or encourage children to provide personal information beyond what is reasonably expected to provide that online service, product, or feature or to forego privacy protections. This bill, beginning January 1, 2027, would require, among other things related to age verification with respect to software applications, an operating system provider, as defined, to provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder, as defined, to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store and to provide a developer, as defined, who has requested a signal with respect to a particular user with a digital signal via a reasonably consistent real-time application programming interface regarding whether a user is in any of several age brackets, as prescribed. The bill would require a developer to request a signal with respect to a particular user from an operating system provider or a covered application store when the application is downloaded and launched. This bill would prohibit an operating system provider or a covered application store from using data collected from a third party in an anticompetitive manner, as specified. This bill would punish noncompliance with a civil penalty to be enforced by the Attorney General, as prescribed. This bill would declare its provisions to be severable. Digest Key Vote: MAJORITY Appropriation: NO Fiscal Committee: YES Local Program: NO ________________________________________________________________________ Bill Text The people of the State of California do enact as follows: SECTION 1. Title 1.81.9 (commencing with Section 1798.500) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read: TITLE 1.81.9. Digital Age Assurance Act 1798.500. For the purposes of this title: (a) (1) “Account holder” means an individual who is at least 18 years of age or a parent or legal guardian of a user who is under 18 years of age in the state. (2) “Account holder” does not include a parent of an emancipated minor or a parent or legal guardian who is not associated with a user’s device. (b) “Age bracket data” means nonpersonally identifiable data derived from a user’s birth date or age for the purpose of sharing with developers of applications that indicates the user’s age range, including, at a minimum, the following: (1) Whether a user is under 13 years of age. (2) Whether the user is at least 13 years of age and under 16 years of age. (3) Whether the user is at least 16 years of age and under 18 years of age. (4) Whether the user is at least 18 years of age. (c) “Application” means a software application that may be run or directed by a user on a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device that can access a covered application store or download an application. (d) “Child” means a natural person who is under 18 years of age. (e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing that can access a covered application store or can download an application. (2) “Covered application store” does not mean an online service or platform that distributes extensions, plug-ins, add-ons, or other software applications that run exclusively within a separate host application. (f) “Developer” means a person that owns, maintains, or controls an application. (g) “Operating system provider” means a person or entity that develops, licenses, or controls the operating system software on a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. (h) “Signal” means age bracket data sent by a real-time secure application programming interface or operating system to an application. (i) “User” means a child that is the primary user of the device. 1798.501. (a) An operating system provider shall do all of the following: (1) Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store. (2) Provide a developer who has requested a signal with respect to a particular user with a digital signal via a reasonably consistent real-time application programming interface that identifies, at a minimum, which of the following categories pertains to the user: (A) Under 13 years of age. (B) At least 13 years of age and under 16 years of age. (C) At least 16 years of age and under 18 years of age. (D) At least 18 years of age. (3) Send only the minimum amount of information necessary to comply with this title and shall not share the digital signal information with a third party for a purpose not required by this title. (b) (1) A developer shall request a signal with respect to a particular user from an operating system provider or a covered application store when the application is downloaded and launched. (2) (A) A developer that receives a signal pursuant to this title shall be deemed to have actual knowledge of the age range of the user to whom that signal pertains across all platforms of the application and points of access of the application even if the developer willfully disregards the signal. (B) A developer shall not willfully disregard internal clear and convincing information otherwise available to the developer that indicates that a user’s age is different than the age bracket data indicated by a signal provided by an operating system provider or a covered application store. (3) (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), a developer shall treat a signal received pursuant to this title as the primary indicator of a user’s age range for purposes of determining the user’s age. (B) If a developer has internal clear and convincing information that a user’s age is different than the age indicated by a signal received pursuant to this title, the developer shall use that information as the primary indicator of the user’s age. (4) A developer that receives a signal pursuant to this title shall use that signal to comply with applicable law but shall not do either of the following: (A) Request more information from an operating system provider or a covered application store than the minimum amount of information necessary to comply with this title. (B) Share the signal with a third party for a purpose not required by this title. 1798.502. (a) With respect to a device for which account setup was completed before January 1, 2027, an operating system provider shall, before July 1, 2027, provide an accessible interface that allows an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store. (b) If an application last updated with updates on or after January 1, 2026, was downloaded to a device before January 1, 2027, and the developer has not requested a signal with respect to the user of the device on which the application was downloaded, the developer shall request a signal from a covered application store with respect to that user before July 1, 2027. 1798.503. (a) A person that violates this title shall be subject to an injunction and liable for a civil penalty of not more than two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per affected child for each negligent violation or not more than seven thousand five hundred dollars ($7,500) per affected child for each intentional violation, which shall be assessed and recovered only in a civil action brought in the name of the people of the State of California by the Attorney General. (b) An operating system provider or a covered application store that makes a good faith effort to comply with this title, taking into consideration available technology and any reasonable technical limitations or outages, shall not be liable for an erroneous signal indicating a user’s age range or any conduct by a developer that receives a signal indicating a user’s age range. 1798.504. (a) This title does not modify, impair, or supersede the operation of any antitrust law. (b) This title does not require the collection of additional personal information from device owners or device users other than that which is necessary to comply with Section 1798.501. (c) An operating system provider or a covered application store shall comply with this title in a nondiscriminatory manner, including, but not limited to, by complying with both of the following: (1) An operating system provider or a covered application store shall impose at least the same restrictions and obligations on its own applications and application distribution as it does on those from third-party applications or application distributors. (2) An operating system provider or a covered application store shall not use data collected from a third party in the course of compliance with this title to compete against that third party, give the covered application store’s services preference relative to those of a third party, or to otherwise use this data or consent mechanism in an anticompetitive manner. (d) The protections provided by this title are in addition to those provided by any other applicable law, including, but not limited to, the California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act (Title 1.81.47 (commencing with Section 1798.99.28)). (e) If any provision of this title, or application thereof, to any person or circumstance is held invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of this title that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this title are declared to be severable. (f) This title does not apply to any of the following: (1) A broadband internet access service, as defined in Section 3100. (2) A telecommunications service, as defined in Section 153 of Title 47 of the United States Code. (3) The delivery or use of a physical product. (g) This title does not impose liability on an operating system provider, a covered application store, or a developer that arises from the use of a device or application by a person who is not the user to whom a signal pertains. 1798.505. T