From: auchaye@matai.vuw.ac.NZ Subject: RE: Family Group
   Conferences To: KUDUT@hamp.hampshire.edu Message-id:
   <0094F291.197A4400.8772@matai.vuw.ac.nz> X-Envelope-to: KUDUT
   Ken:* Now that I have received your tantrum, I will become an
   even more silent member of this.* Its clear that you only want
   some feedback and not other types of feedback.* Sometime
   consider how Americans might be seen outside their own country.*
   Maybe then, you will have some inkling about where I am coming
   from.* I will watch and wait.* One last thought:* Why is that no
   one has picked up the thoughts contained in the message from Gay
   Maxwell about Family Group Conferences?* My studies suggest that
   this change to the New Zealand law is one of the most
   significant legal changes affecting children in the Western
   World.* No one has even said boo. Instead, the airwaves are
   preoccupied with drinking age, oppression by parents, etc.* All
   American stuff.* I see no need to qualify my statement about
   innane chat.* Auchaye --- From:** *HAMP::KUDUT*******
   "Children's Rights List Co-ordinator" 24-SEP-1991 17:00:36.31
   To:** *IN%"auchaye@matai.vuw.ac.NZ" CC:** *KUDUT Subj:** *RE:
   Family Group Conferences Auchaye, I'm sorry that I can't
   dedicate more of the discussion towards what is happening in New
   Zealand, but I can't.* The only mention I have ever heard of
   this is from Gay Maxwell.* The changes happening in NZ are,
   beyond Gay's mention of it, is foreign to me, and also to the
   American (and, it seems, European) users of this list.* If you
   could contribute some of your knowledge to this list, I would
   appreciate it. It seems that you are complaining about the
   knowledge of the users that are PARTICIPATING.* The discussion
   is centering around the United States because the issues are
   common to those discussing.* The changes in NZ are interesting,
   but before ANYONE can discuss anything, we have to be informed.*
   So, you have every right to your opinions, but I also have right
   to my own.* My opinion stands that you should not complain about
   the level of discussion if you are not participating in it. (and
   please DON'T interpret this to mean "well... you obviously don't
   want to hear my opinions because they disagree with yours"
   because that is just whining.* Nobody likes a whiner) --Ken