April27 2008 ------------------- stuck on a computer without internet access. The chair wins over the internet. i have the internet five feet away from me,but i have to stand. Don't like that much. In starting up another website, what is your purpose? So far what you've been doing is: set up a domain over a "concept" and then figure out the exactly whats once you get the 'perfect' cms going. You've been worried about the UI, etc. But WHAT will people be able to do there that they can't do anywhere else? Is it a business directory? Well, you kinda have that. not as well as you'd like but you have one. whoswho are you thinking of recreating a "spock" but for naples? That's what it seems like! For an effort to meet new people, you need to allow them to create a profile. Better still, use public information on the web and CREATE profiles for them. That would be more powerful and potentially more useful. If they have a problem, then I will be happy to remove it. You could just go ahead and make it nationwide. That would solve the problem of worrying about its locality. The wiki had promise but it was "boring". that's something as well - the boring factor. But CAN you serve all areas of the population? Some people are not INTERESTED in other people, just information. I guess you're back to the old global categorization of information, a system of systems of sorts.... god, if only I were just a little bit smarter. It's like it's JUST out of reach. How do you make a website a "happening place"? Well, what do you do when you host a party? Offer a seat or standing? give them a drink? Coke? Water? Beer? Wine? Cognac? How do you allow the conversations to flow, one into another, without the sense of absurd categorization (too many categories = confusion IF they're all exposed at the start) that's part of the trouble I have with naplesplus. Too many categories -- or too much exposed information. -----okay let's see... a mashup idea with spock MIGHT work, with some work... You need to get some focus. You want a website that runs itself. No interference required from you - you get to sit back and enjoy it. Naplesplus, well you found out you don't care about naples news that much - or perhaps you just don't like the layout. It can be changed, you know. Maybe you'rre just bored with the layout. Make it like news articles in boxes. That'd be potentially cool...