+[1]Dj992Music I'm starting to come to the conclusion that perhaps our way of thinking is more alike than different, and we're bickering like people with two similar opinions, perhaps we've both been trying to make giant chasms when the differences are actually, quite small. a) Education cannot currently accommodate everybody. b) As of yet, no education system has successfully accommodated everybody, as far as I know c) It may not be possible to accommodate everybody; yet, it may. d) They attempt to teach a set of minimums with various degrees of success and failure. e) They attempt to accommodate specialization up to a point; vocational schools can be considered to a part of the overall education system; although there are different degrees of success in merging what used to be two entirely separate things in many parts of the world - and in some places, the separation is huge. I would suggest that parents are a part of the education system; but in most places, they do not have access to training.* They become a dumping ground when problem arrive. I feel that the compartmentalization of government, education, businesses, medicine, parenting as separate domains may never change, but I believe it is possible for there to be better "glue" between them. I feel there needs to be something that minimized "the Blame Game" Yet, the channels of communication, I feel should be more or less independent of those systems; there has to be advocates for the children as they navigate their way through the various systems. In the USA, we have "guidance counselors" - they serve that function to a point; sometimes licenses psychologists, often not; within education; But supplemental sources are also needed; liasons not just to the various systems; but different ways to access knowledge itself that is somewhat independent. For the problem I have with a lot of these systems that are, as they are set up; is minimal involvement of the kids outside of "follow orders". I understand why it's set up like that; there's no need to justify why it currently exists. But I still think there is room for improvement; these are people going through the system, not statistics.* That's why I bring up case studies; a case study is not just a statistic; it is an example to prove a point; but even within statistics, the Outliers perform an important function; they are not just points of failure, but points of growth and improvement. Malcolm Gladwell wrote an excellent book on Outliers and their role in statistics and in society; although he's not the only resource. I take issue, you see, with one of the statistically based assumptions behind education as it currently stands: Statistical science has taken over the world by storm, especially in the 19th and 20th centuries, and has influence such a large amount of our culture, from sciences to education to economics; that we almost see it as natural and automatic.* But it's a tool for a purpose; and tools can be used well or not.* I was pointing that out when I put together basic statistics showing the lack of independent time in an average kids' day., much of which is due to the education system as it currently stands. Statistics can be used to lead or mislead; I was giving an example of being "leading" in a sense by carrying the point further into a new area.* You didn't go along with it; you have a well-developed bullshit detector.* (even though what I was saying wasn't bullshit; I used a common technique of bullshitters) Here's the crux of it for me: The Bell Curve It is the one thing that I have hated since I was about 10 years old and first learned about it; as teachers were trying to get me into a "Talented and Gifted Program".* That's I learned I was different; "above average", not a part of the bell curve; as an explanation for why I did so well compared to others; and why I was not like them. I didn't like it. I learned I was considered a statistic.* A number. There are other ways it can be done than this.* A greater focus on specialization based upon talents, rather than just "raising the average", I feel would be a tremendous improvement to society. Anyway, I'm sorry if I was argumentative in my responses; it was unnecessary and childish.* It's a subject I've been passionate about since I was young and first felt the "sting" of finding out that I was a statistic; and a whole system of education that put me in the "You Are Not Normal" category.* It just didn't seem right then; and it just doesn't seem right now. References Visible links 1. https://plus.google.com/118376470729003303915