Motivation is an interesting thing; I was looking into alternative forms of government (because it's an area I'm weak on; I'm usually researching psychology/sociology/brain stuff) - and a friend mentioned Sociocracy. Sounded great! Looked into it, its Quaker roots... but I was trying to find the flaw... find the flaw... find the flaw.. [because anytime something seems too good, it's hiding in what' *not* said] Then I realized it: What about someone who isn't committed? What do you do with them when they lack the conviction or become disillusioned? Kick them out? Encourage compliance? And then it hit me: Motivation. It's gotta come from the inside. Ok - how do you encourage intrinsic motivation? Is it possible to use extrinsic motivation to build intrinsic motivation? What seems to be the case, although I'm not entirely sure, is that it's *difficult* to use external motivation _if the intrinsic motivation isn't there to start with_. "Can't planet a watermelon in a desert" - that sort of thing. All interesting nature/nurture stuff in this thing. [and of course you *can* - you just have to modify the desert to fit the watermelon's needs