yeah I didn't want to into grand detail for me I figured out it
   was the estrogen thing; soy promotes it and products that
   promote estrogen in me 'mess me up' (can't explain how, just
   'don't feel right'). But things that promote testosterone (Zinc
   mostly) I do fine on. Then again, I drink lots of coffee - the
   copper (brown color) also leads towards estrogen and that
   doesn't give me any trouble. But maybe the straight metal isn't
   as dramatic of a difference as the .. proto-estrogens or
   whatever they're called in soy.

   Or maybe coffee doesn't have as much.. When I have too much
   chocolate /cocoa (which is loaded with copper), I get similar
   body effects as I do with soy, so maybe... I dunno.

   The GMO part about soy doesn't bother me as much. I suppose it
   should but GMO never bothered me much. It's anathama to say so
   around some people I know but yeah.d