You can ignore my long rants above if you like.* I've spent a
   lot of time trying to make peace between Creationists Who Deny
   Evolution, and New Atheists in online forums... it came out as a
   brain dump.* I've been successful too a surprising amount of
   times, and failed even more often - but I shouldn't let my
   need-for-peacemaking get in the way of honesty inquiry.* I'm
   oversensitive; when I get a hint of, *"Are these people here
   stupid?"* "Yeah, they sure are stupid!"* I feel the sudden need
   to defend the someone who isn't there as I believe everybody
   deserves a voice. Sorry about that :/* My hangup and my
   hotbutton issue; I do the same in real life when ppl are talking
   about someone who isn't n the room... and I get the same way.*
   sorry about that. Thanks.