Oh exactly.* Thinking in systems without recognizing there are
   other systems that may be equally valid systems... AND without
   recognizing that one is thinking from within a system can be
   dangerous and cause one to be closed minded easily. That was the
   point I was trying to make with this person.* He follows a
   system of Logic.* he doesn't see it as a system.* He sees it as
   self-evident.* I was trying to show how he can pull back from
   Logic itself and see it as a system. All systems seem to be
   man-made.* So they are useful... but absolute?* I doubt it.*
   Could be though - I really don't know enough to say. :)