by your argument, communication between people of different languages/cultures is impossible. Of course we can communicate without having the same words or taxonomies. But I'm listening - you might come up with a point I hadn't thought of and I'm interested. I don't care about winning an argument; I'm here to learn and I hope you can present a perspective I hadn't considered. Also, I thank you for the challenge you presented so far, as a room full of agreeing people tends to be dull to me smile emoticon