Oh my - the Venerable! Would you also be a Venerable Right Revered? Or is that Left? I don't know my terminology that well tongue emoticon As a teenager, they all (I don't know who 'they' is - nevermind about that) - said I should be a minister. So, one day, I just went ahead and did it. Never had the nerve to *use* it, but at least I can say with honesty, "Hey, I did it!" to people whose names I forgot from all those years ago. The ULC certificate sits on a bulletin board. It's got dust on it. I -really- should consider utilizing it in some fashion. [well, I kinda did - I conferred a Free Life, 8-bit style upon all who watch, so that's something tongue emoticon ]