cool - tnx 4 the tips - I'll remember Makey Makey - even if I don't do it for my own ideas, when I come across someone who wants to do something similar (and I always seem to find ppl who say "I wish I could do [x]" - I have a piece of practical working advice to give them. So many ideas* - I love knowing the 'how' even if I don't actually 'do' tw* lol yeah - there's a lot of crap in anarchists cookbook that's just plain out wrong; - but some of it is good stuff.* I like knowing the "how stuff words" part of things 'cause when it comes to actually DOING these things, I usually end up making a mess.