Agreed. It's one of those things _so_ often glossed over: We know as much as we know, and then make a strong assumption about the rest, declaring, "Therefore, no free will". or "Therefore, free will". But the ambiguity remains. I see no other decent recourse but to accept both as equally true/false enough and/or/both as equivalent. It's not a "clean" position to hold. Even myself, I felt the need to "choose" for pragmatic reasons. But even then, strip away the pragmatism and really, whichever one chooses, does not negate the other one in any way because we _don't_ have enough information and it's unlikely we -can- ever have enough information. The only distinction one can do would be that of pragmatic/practical reasons. *Why* is someone choosing one over the other and going through elaborate justifications for their position. _that's_ something that can be debated. But an absolute, "Yes/No True/False" to Free Will/No Free Will? it's a political/religious choice.