I get a little lurch in my stomach at seeing the names Harris and Hitchens. I shouldn't I suppose.. but I think it's their priestly influence that gets me; bishops of a new religion that believes its not because of its contrived definition of religion. I'd say I'm plain old agnostic in the sense of "I don't know". I love science where it works and see places where it doesn't. [objective analysis of subjective experience will always be a limiting factor; some areas the sciences *can't* currently venture into just yet due to their own self-definition of methdologies]. I'm close to a humanist in the sense that I believe that, well, we don't really have much choice at the moment. When we can talk to the animals or find an alien, maybe we can get a different perspective, but at the moment, we're all too human and that has to always be taken into account. That's also what keeps me from fully being a humanist, because I also somewhat see all of life as if it is a giant slime mold born 4 billion years ago (or 10 - whatever) that bubbles on this planet and is mostly indistinguishable from one another. Not secular because I don't have a problem with belief; there's no escaping being a believer of some kind due to our cognitive processes and how they function. But in spirit, I'm close to it.