I'm having a real discussion.
   My definition of a real discussion is embodied in everything I
   have been saying.
   You appear to have a different definition of "real discussion".

   We're working with two different definitions. I'm trying to help
   bring you up to my level, because I'm already having a real
   discussion, but you seem to be seeing something missing that
   prevents you from considering this a real discussion.

   So, I'm trying to help you.