Yeah - that's why I put winner in quotes tongue emoticon I'm
   still honored 'as if' I had won something though. It's nice
   being recognized as having a feasible opinion by the originator
   of the question and even if somebody's answer is 'better' - it
   wouldn't matter because - not a competition - but rather closer
   and closer approximations towards a 'something'... narrowing
   into (or expanding out towards) a concept.

   Something like that :D   Oh I take no offense smile emoticon
   This is a discussion rather than a debate, so as long as
   everybody walks away learning something they didn't know before,
   everybody wins, because it's the whole of the discussion, rather
   than any individual parts, that makes the difference.