He's gonna hate algebra as much as I did. I was good at it, but I still hated it. I especially hated the elimination of variables. Always struck me that you're losing valuable information because a "simple elegant formula" CAN'T be back-traced to its origin without outside knowledge being added into it. But now I'm about to go into my "why programming-for-math-is-better" rant so I'll hush before i do smile emoticon