Ugh, don't get me started on variable elimination in math. I'm all for the beautiful equation but just look at the trouble e=mc2 causes when people use it as a foundation for new popular ideas not knowing the whole thing? But I prefer programming anyway. You can see all-the-math happening in loops and you never lose a variable smile emoticon Not as pretty and concise but it accomplishes the same task smile emoticon Then again, I have weird ideas about that. Never liked the strange terse language of mathematics.