I'm applying a cost/benefit analysis here The amount of convincing it would take for you to understand what I'm talking about isn't worth the amount of words I'd have to spend doing it. If someone is addicted to a drug and only the people around him can see it, it takes a severe effort to break through and change their way of seeing things. It's such the case here. I can't convince you and it's not all _that_ harmful yet, compared to the religio-political systems of old, so I'll stop here. = You're fighting phantoms right now, Naveed, not me. We've talked before. I'm not the philosopher-advocate talking about scientism. I'm not the theist who is pitting evolution vs creation. Oh, it doesn't matter, Naveed. Carry on. I won't be able to convince you to see what I'm talking about. =