20 years and I have gaps in my records (both my memory files and text files alike): it was the MINISTRY list by which we had our initial discussions and connections was it not? Come to think of it, it would be around 23 years (1993-ish I think perhaps). I've been collecting whatever information i could gather from that long ago era: primarily concerned with literally "collecting my thoughts": finding whatever postings I made to various places, and putting them together - and while I always made it a habit to save as much as possible, I have found very few bits of evidence (outside of announcements and using it on taglines) from and about the MINISTRY list. If this -was- where we met (which means it was you that I had passed the list onto along with another) - even if you have no records from that era yourself, or even if I'm mistaken - I just want to say "Thank you!" in any case, as your other name "Andrea Joy Spilholtz" always held its own special music to me as a fond memory of someone significant and always leaves me with a smile of someone who sparkles.