Ah! Thanks Jeff.* I once got a surprisingly well paying job (Systems Analyst II) at a pharmaceutical company by doing something that didn't clearly fit into existing categories :P* I had been working for a marketing dept as a temp but they had to hire me under IT permanently because the systems I put together in Excel/VBA became business critical and none of the marketing or IT ppl could handle it :P Got to write my own job description, they created a new dept under IT and got a new mgr first who had to then hire me (fake ad for jobs - all those ppl who applied that were way smarter than me) - and I went through the hiring process... The IT ppl didn't like what I did because it didn't fit into neat database design (and I refused to speak IT lingo or be IT elitist to the people I supported) ...anyway that was Schering Plough in the late 90s+early 00s. My whole project is related to the 'categorization problem' itself: First for myself and then, if I can find some universal patterns for the things that are miscellaneous generally that would be a nice bonus and maybe a few books out of me or maybe not. Anyway, thanks for moving the file and for your unintentionally inspirational words right there :P* Thanks again for your help.