Why does there appear to be a high rate of substance use among people interested in Philosophy? If there was just "You" there, nutritionally ok enough, nothing extra added on, what would change? == I've done and enjoyed trying a bunch of stuff in the past. I enjoyed the special fx but when I learned that it _really_ doesn't introduce anything novel: that it's more-or-less adjusting existing levels of the internal systems (more of this, less of that to create the fx), my interest waned because they're basically mood changers, and I can change my mood just by thinking. Yet at the same time, I still do coffee and cigarettes. I could probably substitute exercise or something (occasionally cutting off oxygen to my brain to simulate the effects of smoking I suppose... but I'm not much for any kind voluntary asphyxiation) - but it's not likely I will. Still, these things _do_ have effects. I guess it's sort of a "Who Am I without my ______?" type question. == Well ,there's positive (temporary) effects of nicotine, which is what keeps me using it, but at the cost of all the stuff I'm well aware of it. I suspect there's some kind of med that could replace its function: it is definitely a cognitive enhancer, although so is a decent set of B vitamins. Alcohol I don't use too often but I do on occasion (once a month or two) as a "cleanser". I see it as rubbing alcohol for the innards: The same way rubbing alcohol can take a sticker off of a car window, alcohol in the brain washes away some sticky residue in the brain. [literally washing it away), so I think it's good for people sometimes. == I suspect you're right. I used to be my own pharmacist, playing with whatever was at hand, testing on myself. I know enough about nutrition to come up with a diet that works well for me: applying it is another task. I stopped playing with stuff after a year using pseudoephedrine in the early 00's. Loved its effects - along with caffeine, some of the B vitamins along with exercise and stuff.... but I found I got saturated with it and my body was revolting after a while. I had to move away from it. I believe people 'tend' to be geared either towards needing more depressant-type products like alcohol or pot or opiates, and others 'tend' to be more geared towards needing speedy type stuff, like nicotine, caffeine, LSD. I don't know if that's true or not, but it seems to be how I categorize it simply. == [I say "my body was revolting" but not looks-wise: I was at 3% body fat... and cold all of the time... I tried pushing myself to get down to the weight in those old 1950s weight/height charts but it's impossible for me, unless I was to start losing a lot of muscle] == Well the only thing is: what the substances are doing is adjusting levels of neurotransmitters in the nervous system, including the brain, which is what produces the effects. Many roads to the same results. ==