As my mother always says to me, everything has tradeoffs. Here we all have a wonderful, free, mailing list service. Egroups is reliable (at least more than it was in the beginning :) ), extremely fast, and offers e-mail access, web access, and digest mode. Other free mailing list software, such as Majordomo and many of the newer ones do not offer such features, at least not easily, and outside of eGroups, I would say that LISTSERV, the king of mailing-list software is the best in this regard. But again - tradeoffs. It wouldn't be difficult to have ortho-praxis put on a LISTSERV, but it wouldn't be easy either. One would have to pester a university LISTSERV Owner (who has probably been pestered over and over again, especially in recent times being more people on the Internet and all the past few years), and then wait, and wait, and wait. Back in '90 I had to do that when I was all involved with children's rights (Y-RIGHTS was my baby) and had to ask around through e-mail to different LISTSERV owners until I found one willing to help. Then in '92 or '93, I started another LISTSERV (MINISTRY was also my baby) and was lucky that time around because I came across a university that was newly installing their LISTSERV software and wasn't yet at the point of cynicism. I've since passed on the reins of leadership to other people years ago, as I'm no longer involved in those issues (I became Orthodox after running MINISTRY for a while, and soon realized the incompatibility of an synchrinistic grouping of 'spiritual leaders' from all sorts of religions with Orthodoxy, and passed the reins on to a Wiccan priestess (who I felt was quite technically capable of administering the list, and had the personality to continue it with the original guidelines I had put together, which no longer fit me but that fit her just fine). Anyhow - I'm babbling about my past here. Fact is - eGroups is providing a wonderful service. The good points - easy list setup, easy list maintenance, easy subscribing and unsubscribing (add '-subscribe' to the end of an eGroup's listname address to subscribe, or add '-unsubscribe' to the addressname to unsubscribe), easy access via Web or e-mail, very speedy delivery - and what do we have to deal with in return? Four or five little lines on the bottom of our messages. I think they're charging something akin to $5/month so that one doesn't have to see those little lines on the bottom. If somebody here finds the ads intrusive enough to make the experience of this list unpleasant, I'm sure that Elias would be more than happy if you would send the $5/month to the eGroups people. As for me, the tradeoffs are worth it. I can live with the occasional unwanted e-mail, or the few little lines at the bottom of the screen. There is an expression which sticks with me, and I hope to one day be able to incorporate into my life - it is: == Wisdom is knowing what to ignore. == ObPraxis: If prayer while sitting still is difficult, you can try praying while walking. If you can, put the car away and walk and pray. Praying while walking is not without precedence - the Russian pilgrims come especially to mind.