That's one of my favorite quotes. This too: "It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer" - Albert Einstein. 80% of ppl barely even try and then they quit. It's the rare 20% who stick with things until they're finished. To me, the winning is in the trying, the losing is when you stop trying and then complain about it 'til everybody's ears are bleeding. That's a loser to me. But what' s odd to me is that losers call winners losers - and losers cheer for losers when they lose, but ignore them if they win. A strange world indeed! "