photons vs force carriers + mass: a) They're different 'cause they're different b) they're different because they're not the same c) All it takes is two ++ and one - at the start (so to speak)* to provide boundary conditions that allow for distinct behaviors that can't be reconciled by something that requires an =. *go with handedness instead, whatever. You get the drift. d) category errors. I'll leave that there. e) at its foundations, the axiom/proof system is the problem. What's in the middle of the axiom + the proof? the /. f) What's beyond the axiom/proof system? Us. I could go on with my oversimplified, easily rebuked set of arguments.