For example, square roots were never a problem for me. By the time we were on square roots, I already knew to draw a square in basic, I'd have to do something like: For i=1 to 40 for j = 1 to 40 DRAW (i,j,3) next j next i Something like that. [I don't remember what the draw command was] So that's how I made a square. So when square roots came out for me in 7th grade, I was like, "Oh, Just REM out the j. What's the i?" and that was it. Nobody knew what the hell I was talking about but this was back in 1984 I think.