For creativity though, it's marvelous. You've seen how LONG WINDED I AM. I don't know when to stop. I type until my fingers get tired, THEN I stop. But with Vine, there's a 6.8 second limit. So my ongoing challenge: HOW CAN I FIT EVERYTHING INTO 6.8 SECONDS? 11,000+ Vines later, I've fit a lot. I like the challenge. Today, I was playing with an awesome Russian tracker [1]http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/pixitracker/ This Russian guy, Alex Z to me, is a genius. He's got this awesome software, INCLUDING one that turns PAPER sound waves into real waves... I feel like Edison singing Mary had a little lamb with it.... anyway, this little ChipTune tracker (so easy to use) - and I was able to take advantage of the looping of Vine to laydown some simple 80s style videogame music tracks and have it loop. I got to share my idea and move on. It's the looping I love. Without the looping? it'd suck. References Visible links 1. http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/pixitracker/