From Suck4Straight@aol.com Mon Feb 19 21:26:55 2007 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:11:14 EST From: Suck4Straight@aol.com To: nifty@gaycafe.com Subject: preliminary findings & tentative conclusions [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 54 lines. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] THE DATA: I have communicated with several men over the past three or four years as a result of posting these sexually explicit episodes, or "stories" on the gay Nifty archive collection, "Authoritarian".  Most my responses came not from gay men (as I had anticipated), but from bisexual guys who had a strong desire to submit to men, and yet a strong and proportionally greater attraction to women at the same time. Most of these men were either married or between heterosexual partners, a few of them had girlfriends.   In general the bisexuals showed a greater sense of self-confidence than the gay respondents, many of whom seemed plagued by guilt or shame.  Bisexuals were more likely to act on their desires in terms of follow-ups with dominent types, which they had encountered in a variety of often novel settings (not in gay bars or establishments but in sports bars or other meeting places primarily for heterosexual guys).   I have recieved only one response from a non-masochistic, dominant top interested in my submissive desires--we wrote back and forth explicit long messages almost daily for a month before it exhaused itself.  He identified himself not as bisexual but as heterosexual (he felt getting serviced by a "fag" doesn't mean you're gay or bi in any way--he was an x-Marine around my age, who had served in Nam.) When I tried to arrange a meeting, because I was to be in his city on a conference, he wouldn't come to my hotel and see me--he appearently couldn't deal with the actual reality of what he had been emailing me about for weeks.   CONCLUSIONS: Desire to submit to a masculine Other is very strong in many bisexuals of various shades of grey. This masculine or even hyper-masculine identification is strong in some gays, but a feminine identification is perhaps more widespread among gays, making many shy away from the dominence imperative of submission to a Man, in favor of a more androgenous expression of sexual desire that mixes masculine and feminine qualities.   As a predominately gay submissive, I can identify with the bisexual's needs more easily. Masculine identification and even masculine eclipse of my manhood is sought out and actively pursued. This is at least partly due to the failure to identify fully with manhood in my childhood.  Dominence/submission seems to be predominatley in the masculine realm (even if it's between lesbians or M/F couples).