2018-03-15 ___T_h_e__l_a_c_k__o_f__l_a_y_o_u_t__________________________________ After yesterdays post[0] I have received feedback[1] on mastodon pointing to some effort to develop a new kind of hypertext / image / layout language. This effort runs under the tag #gopherine[2] and looks like a new client based on the ideas of gopher. I have not seen anything else than the screenshots posted there and I have got mixed feelings about this. From the (lack of) description I cannot tell, what the advantages over using any other markup langugage are. After all one can serve HTML documents over gopher just fine. Or one can resort to reST or markdown or anything else. The latter two also allow one to add pictures to text and with meta info one could also hint at the desired fonts a client should use, while degrading gracefully and being still readable in their text-only form. So if you come up with another markup, maybe checking whether it is still readable without a fancy renderer is a good litmus test whether you are adding value or just ballooning old features into a new shape. Still with all that said I think it's good and nice to see alternative experiments with formats and forms. It is still better than just complaining and may reveal some core features that are valuable and need to be preserved. ___References________________________________________________________ [0]: gopher://vernunftzentrum.de:70/0/ckeen/phlog/2018-03-14-What-about-a-simple-degrading-web.md [1]: https://a.weirder.earth/@bb010g/99684275372391629 [2]: https://a.weirder.earth/tags/gopherine