Subj : Re: Democrat Protesters To : Lee Lofaso From : Dan Cross Date : Thu Jun 11 2020 06:31 am On 10 Jun 2020 at 08:16p, Lee Lofaso pondered and said... LL> >You don't know that he loves your dear president. LL> LL> He was there, giving Trump all his love and full support. As are you! Just admit that you're a Trump supporter. LL> >Why? Because you're such a big Trump supporter LL> >you want everyone to know how you feel about him? LL> LL> To remind you the oath of office requires the president to defend LL> the Constitution of the United States. So you don't refute that you're a Trump supporter. Got it. LL> >LL>I also quoted the text of the oath of enlistment for those LL> >LL>who serve in the military. All the oaths call to defend the LL> >LL>Constitution of the United States. LL> LL> >Military officers aren't enlisted. You're so ignorant LL> >you don't even know when you're wrong to accept correction. You stated that officers are enlisted and swear the oath of enlistment. They aren't and don't. I thought that you Trumpers were really big on humping the military's leg? As a Good Little Right-Winger, shouldn't you know that? LL> >LL>Where do you get the bizarre idea that the military is there LL> >LL>to defend the president? Please tell. I'm all ears. LL> > LL> >I'm not sure why you would ask that, since I never said LL> >it was? LL> LL> Milley chose to defend the president, rather than the Constution LL> of the United States. IOW, he violated the very oath he took as an LL> officer. Meaning he is not an honorable man, or a gentleman. No no no. You made a specific statement, that _I_ believe that the military is here to defend the president. Don't try to deflect. LL> >Apparently, the DC police and your hero Trump. LL> LL> Which brings us back to the original question I asked at LL> the beginning of this thread - LL> LL> "Do you intend to obey illegal orders from the President?" And I answered that unequivocally: No. I am not, nor was I ever, under any obligation to follow any illegal order, no matter who issued it; I would not do so. You evidently know me better than I do, though, and disagree with me on what I would do and what I have seen other military officers do. But you've also admitted to being a Trump supporter, so this is unsurprising. Do you support his little concentration camps for kids, or cracking down on protesters? LL> Given that you are retired military, and no longer active, it is I am not retired, as I told you. That's a very specific status; I served and left the service prior to retirement. I am honorably discharged. LL> a question you can easily dodge by claiming you are too old or some LL> other chickenshit excuse. I don't see how I need to "dodge" the question since I answered it clearly and unequivocally. Perhaps you didn't understand the answer, or it didn't fit with your preconceptions, and so you are having a hard time either understanding or accepting it? LL> However, the military man who originally LL> asked the question answered it himself by his own actions - by LL> joining the president as troops opened fire on peaceful protesters LL> who lawfully did their thing on holy ground. Except he actually wasn't there for the clearing of Lafayette park. Knowing that you support Trump, I understand that you have a hard time with facts and nuance. LL> >Oh, and I never said I was retired. I am discharged. LL> LL> So was Jack Nicholson, with a bit of help from Tom Cruise. LL> Please. Tell us how you did it. Was your road trip every bit LL> as fun as the one Jack took? Uh...you join, you serve, and you get out. If you never do anything illegal or immoral while in, you likely get an honorable discharge; possibly a medical, which is technically a general discharge, though under honorable circumstances. It's really not that hard, though it probably doesn't mesh with your biases, which may be why you have such a hard time understanding it. That may also have something to do with your love for your president and Dear Leader, Donald Trump. LL> Hey. What do you expect? I'm a civvie. Just like Trump! LL> Born to be wild ... You even revel in being like him! Amazing. LL> >No no no. You said that _I_ was thought that what LL> >happened to those protesters was deserved. Don't LL> >deflect; tell me where _I_ said that. Be specific. LL> LL> All of the protesters were peaceful, lawfully protesting LL> what they viewed as a wrong. It was others who had infiltrated LL> their ranks who were causing trouble, as they had no interest LL> in actually protesting a thing. No no no. You're trying to change the subject again. You said that _I_ said those protesters deserved what happened to them. Tell me exactly where I said that. Exactly. Go ahead; I'll wait. LL> You see, trouble is where you find it. And those troublemakers LL> knew exactly where to go in order to find the kind of trouble they LL> could make. LL> LL> Most, if not all, of the troublemakers were right-wing radicals. Your kinda people, huh? You want to see people in cages. You want to see the police beat people on the street. You want to see a Trump dictatorship. LL> What we have, in effect, is a president gone mad. A president who LL> wants to make war on peaceful protesters, who have a Constitutional LL> right to protest. So why are you such a booster of his? LL> There are pictures on social media verifying this for anybody LL> who bothers taking a look. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/06/08/timeline-trump-church- photo-op/ LL> >You're just peachy about the death of 100,000 Americans? LL> LL> We cure ourselves by dying faster. That is the new plan. LL> If one can call it that. I can see you're perfectly fine with Trump's handling of the pandemic. LL> Why are more African Americans dying, and at a faster rate, than LL> other groups? Because they are the ones who keep us fed, and keep LL> us clothed, and keep us housed. So you're fine with keeping black people oppressed as long as you are kept in clothing, housing and fed? That's basically what you're saying. LL> >Meanwhile, you fully support your president. LL> LL> What kind of oath did you take? We're not talking about me; we're talking about you and your support for Trump. LL> >Maybe you and Ammon Bundy should get together and go LL> >bowling. Then you can hit up a Trump rally together. LL> LL> Why do you hate the Constitution of the United States? LL> It is a beautiful document, written on parchment, although LL> the ink is brown and kinda fading ... It's not me that hates it; it's you. You and your fellow Trump supporters, who align yourselves with those who pervert it and its meaning to retain your hold on power. It's really sad. LL> I support the will of the people. Whatever that happens to be. So you're ok with the right-wing putting kids in concentration camps. With Trump destroying the planet and the presidency. With murder of black and brown bodies in the name of "law and order". With over a hundred thousand of your fellow Americans dying. Wow. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/28 (Windows/32) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100) .