Subj : Re: Modern instant-on sys To : Tom Lake From : Daniel Date : Sun May 31 2020 10:01 am -=> Tom Lake wrote to Daniel <=- TL> You can get almost instant-on by turning on a fast boot switch which is TL> available in most BIOS. Fast boot eliminates a lot of the checking TL> (such as a RAM test) the regular boot does. Remember, for the old TL> systems, the ROM was written for just that particular hardware. There TL> was no need to try to identify all sorts of different hard drives, USB TL> devices, etc. The ROM knew exactly what was there and only needed to TL> start BASIC or an rudimentary menu. Modern systems then have to load a TL> very complex OS from some device. When everything is in ROM, there's no TL> need to do that. Thank you for the reply. Let met phrase the question a different way because I don't think I properly conveyed the question. Imagine if Commodore continued releasing faster and more advanced versions of the C64. System still loads on ROM and, with a flip of a switch the user is welcomed with either a basic screen or a basic menu UI. David, of the 8 bit guy, is actually building a souped up Vic 20 with off the shelf components and getting help on his pursuit from a variety of people including an old Commodore engineer. His dream machine, as he calls it. I think he's naming it the Commander X16. He's intending to mass produce it for the retro computing scene. Yeah he's a small guy with very little funding but the pursuit is similar in concept to my question the one i asked about. Every copy will be on identical hardware and software so OS complexity shouldn't be much more complex than the original system. while he's building a modern 8bit machine, I'm wondering if it would be possible to do this very thing with a modern 32 or 64 bit processor with modern storage, memory, video/audio, and input/output yet be instant on. And the developer would be responsible for the look and feel of the application. Daniel Traechin .... Visit me at gopher://gcpp.world --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49 * Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (1:340/7) .