Subj : Re: EU rejects claims of cens To : Mike Powell From : Rug Rat Date : Sun Aug 31 2025 12:09 pm On Sun 31-Aug-2025 9:47a, Mike Powell@1:2320/105.0 said to Rug Rat: MP> Beaches are a good place to take pictures of many other things... MP> lighthouses, MP> sunsets... that have nothing to do with whoever is there. I usually try MP> to MP> ignore other people... being tagged for a sex crime just because my camera MP> makes them uncomfortable is going way too far. As a photographer and blogger (Non monetized), there are many times that including a subject in the photo showing their reaction, immerserion, or what have you into the scene itself tells a story, outside of me just rambling away. You are in public, there is no expectation of privacy. Take your feelings and go home and hide in your bubble. While some of the methods "1st amemdment auditors" go to, to get the content for their Youtube/Facebook content justified is questionable. I fully support what they are doing. I have seen the flip side, and it is not someplace we want to go. Furthermore, these women chose to wear what they did when they stepped outside. They obviously don't feel uncomfortable about it, just because I capture it with a camera should not put the onous of shame, embarrasment, etc. on me! If they don't want friends, family, coworkers, etc. to accidently stumble upon it, perhaps they should think about it before hand. Yeah I know I will get some "womens lib" person out there all in a tizzy, but I really am beyond caring.. ** On a side note. If you are taking unsolicited photos / videos for a blog / vlog etc, and that post or video is monetized, does that cross the line into needing a photo/video release? That would be a good debate topic MP> So if they do something bad, and you just tell what they did without MP> opinion, it could be defamation? Consider the state of things right now, MP> I MP> am surprised we don't have one like this. If you say it to them and only them, you are in the clear (Though being Korea, I am sure there are other laws they can get you on.). Though with or without oppinion if you saw something to a third party that "defames" them, you might want a lawyer on retainer. Other part of Korean law that comes into play with some of these (Though more and more laws are doing away with this...)... If the accused enteres into an agreement called a "Personal Appology Settlement." Which usually includes an appology without admitting guilt and a payment. The "agreived" will drop the charges or the prosecutor will decide not to procede with prosecution.. On one hand it saves the court a lot of time, but on the other hand opend the door for legalized extortion. Rug Rat (Brent Hendricks) Blog and Forums - www.catracing.org IMAGE BBS! 3.0 - bbs.catracing.org 6400 C-Net Amiga BBS - bbs.catracing.org 6840 --- CNet/5 * Origin: The Rat's Den BBS (1:135/250) .