Subj : Re: ChatGPT Writing
To   : phigan
From : jimmylogan
Date : Fri Dec 26 2025 05:08 pm

-=> phigan wrote to jimmylogan <=-

 ph>   Re: Re: ChatGPT Writing
 ph>   By: jimmylogan to phigan on Tue Dec 02 2025 11:15 am

 > it's been flat out WRONG before, but never insisted it was

 ph> You were saying you'd never seen it make stuff up :). You certainly
 ph> have. Just today I asked the Gemini in two different instances how to
 ph> do the same exact thing in some software. One time it gave instructions
 ph> for one method, and the second time it said the first method wasn't
 ph> possible with that software and a workaround was necessary.

 > Time saw raw emit level racecar level emit raw saw time.

 ph> Exactly, there it is again saying something is a palindrome when it
 ph> isn't.

 ph> Example of a palindrome:
 ph> able was I ere I saw elba

 ph> Not a palindrome:
 ph> I palindrome I

I'm not denying it can be wrong as clearly it can be. My disagreement 
is with equating "wrong" with "made up.""

In both of your examples, a simpler explanation fits: it produced what 
it believed was the correct answer based on its internal model and was 
mistaken. Humans do that constantly, and we don't normally say they are 
making things up unless there is intent or invention involved.

Calling every incorrect output 'made up' or a 'hallucination' blurs the 
distinction between fabrication and error, and I don't think that helps 
people understand what the tool is actually doing.



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