Subj : Russia and Ukraine To : Alexander Koryagin From : Alan Ianson Date : Fri May 27 2022 11:53 pm >> A puppet government is not hard to describe. It is a government put >> in place of an existing government by force. That is what Russia >> has tried to do in Ukraine. They have done that on a smaller scale >> in some regions of Ukraine. > Well, to say the truth, it is a common worldwide practice. The US has > done it all the the time when it wants to have a friendly government in > some country. It was in Haiti, Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua etc, Iraq, > Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya. Military juntas installed by the US is a > common thing in the South America, remember Chile for instance. So it is > not the US who has a moral right to teach others in this respect. You are deflecting. We are talking about Russian actions in Ukraine and what a puppet government is. >> What is this peaceful variant of resistance you speak of? > Well it easy -- western economic sanctions are a 20 times more effective > weapon than the resistance of the Ukrainian good-for-nothing troops dug > down in civil areas and towns Sanctions are not a weapon. They are a reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. If Russia had not done that there would be no sanctions. The same is true of the sanctions imposed after Russia originally invaded Ukraine some years back although those sanctions were on a much smaller scale. > -- the main cause of numeral deaths of > civilians in Ukraine. Also these bastards prohibit civilians to leave > the towns under an attack. It is a well known fact. Russian people in > such towns are used as a living shield of the Ukrainian army. You've been watching to much Russian state TV, you should stop that. It is not doing you any good. Today the Donbass is destroyed, by Russian forces. Not something else. >> I see. Ukraine should have given Russia it's money so Russia >> wouldn't break their bones? > Not money, but concessions -- it just should to stop its nationalistic > policy towards the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, to give an > autonomy to Russian-speaking regions. It was realistic. So we are back at concessions again? What concessions do you imagine Ukraine should offer to you, so that you don't break their bones? >> The Donbass is Ukrainian territory. How do you imagine that Ukraine >> blockaded it? > By tanks and military of course. Yes, of course. How and why do you imagine that Ukraine blockaded their own territory? > Well, the main task for the West now is to carry out the Ukrainian grain > out of the country. You are not making any sense. It is not a task of the west to carry anything out of Ukraine. It never was. > The declared aim is to feed the world population. Nothing has been declared. The Russian blockade of Ukraine's exports creates a world food shortage, among other things. > Russia is also participate in the process -- Yes, Russia participated in the theft of this grain from Ukraine. Russia is the largest producer of grain in the world. If it wanted to help any country it could ship it's grain to them itself. That is not what happened. Russia shipped wheat stolen from Ukraine. > it doesn't confiscate the grain for itself. No it doesn't. That grain was stolen from Ukraine. > There are many grain in Ukraine on the Russian held > territory and it is logically to say that only Russian ships can deliver > it out. What!? Ukraine will ship their wheat, not Russia. Russia has much wheat that they can ship if they so choose. --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6 * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757) .