Subj : Re: Housekeeping To : fusion From : Commodore Clifford Date : Tue Apr 25 2023 09:02 pm On 24 Apr 23 16:13:29 fusion wrote... FF> On 24 Apr 2023, poindexter FORTRAN said the following... FF> pF> I'm all for security, but back-hauling security onto open FF> pF> protocols like bink and telnet seem pointless unless you're FF> pF> going to deprecate the insecure protocols. FF> FF> this stuff is just for fun. if you start giving the boot to people FF> who can't (or won't) run the secure stuff, that's not fun. FF> FF> *shrug* FF> FF> --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32) * Origin: cold FF> fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616) To which Commodore Clifford replies... The real problem is that there are a lot of actual retro hardware BBS's that can't necessarily re-write their mailers (the juice isn't worth the squeeze as some would say) and I think that is also a part of the activity problem. Many of the "retro" BBS's that I call are way more active than some of the networks I receive.... As in individual BBS's getting more "local" messages a day than I get from the net combined. But these systems are too "retro" for some of these nets. I'm only here because I finally decided to break down and do a BinkD mailer on a linux box. These users could be a benefit if they could connect with their old mailers... but even finding a successful telnet feed is nearly impossible anymore. And some nets don't even support that much. I tried joining "RetroNet" of all nets some 10 or so years ago. My system was "too retro for RetroNet". (No loss really, but the irony is amusing). --- RATSoft/FIDO v09.14.95 [JetMail 1.01] * Origin: STar Fleet HQ BBS - bbs.sfhqbbs.org:5983 (21:3/171) .