Subj : In this list? (NET4) To : apam From : David Gonzalez Date : Mon Oct 21 2024 07:23 am Hello apam! 21 Oct 24 07:50, you wrote to me: >> I would say the exact opposite, I put ffort on it and do a lot, >> then nobody connects, I trad and reply to many echomails but in my >> own personal case/way I try to do stuff, but it becomes like >> fruitless when you check your IN logsnad only SysOp logged in. ap> I can understand that, most BBSes get very few logins these days. ap> Unless you're running a BBS for your own personal enjoyment rather ap> than an attempt to get users logging in, your (most likely) going to ap> be disappointed. Yup!, that's real, I do enjoy logging in to my own BBS and when I see an eye-catching ad, I go check, but you said a very wise phrase down and I'll use that "grumpy old men", the whole scene is filled with that Reddit and everything. >> I get it we all have some other stuff to do and now with even the >> toilet using tiktok who cares about a black screen with green >> letters some luser setup in Colombia?. ap> It's not really about your setup, I think the number of people that ap> set up a BBS do so, then a few weeks later realize it's not like it ap> was in the 90s, pull it down again. Why go through the effort of ap> signing up to a BBS if it's going to be gone in a few weeks (speaking ap> generally) and has the same stuff all the other BBSes have? That said, ap> it's still nice to encourage new sysops by visiting their work every ap> now and then. I wish more poeple thought this way, and I completely understand it's a matter of what makes x bbs different, spanish?. LoL. An encouraging others is a good lesson, I'd sign up to a BBS now and then and check around, I'v efound great ASCII art, and I want to do just that for mine all Terminator themed, but what for, who for?, so I want to get door games apart from sock blackjack on Mystic, nice menus, englis and spanish themes but the I realize those logins are just port-scanners. >> It'd be so great that areas were more active hub RPs were more >> welcoming and helpful but I see the same behaviour and >> obnoxiousness I saw back then,"it's your system", "you're i the >> wrong" and so on... I remeber back I 99 I had this friend in Spain >> he ran RafaBBS, he would spend hours trying to help me, now people >> just hope that you read between the lines on their two line replies >> blaming you... ap> Yeah, there are a lot of obnoxious people on BBSes, you'll learn who ap> they are soon enough, but there are some nice people too, I don't know ap> who you are refering to with RPs, but agree there are some who are not ap> very welcoming and some that are. ap> Again it comes down to a bit of a catch 22, people are tired of ap> helping people setting up new systems who just disappear again in a ap> few weeks, and people disappear because no one helps them or makes ap> them feel welcome. True, and as I stated before, not even HUBs are welcoming anymore, now everybody wants "automation", what for?, so thay tehy don't have to deal with questions or help newcomers?. anyways as you said, it's a two-way street, carelesss people and grumy old a-holes, sorry about that but I had to get it off my chest. >> :Like when you take the time to ask a question and even if some >> dude knows the answer he'll tell you RTFM... WTF?... Like with that >> attitude you show the world you sufferted hell setting things up >> and others should suffer much more. Isn't it more helpful to say >> "have you checked...". ap> Yes it is, and I totally agree with you. If you're going to reply ap> RTFM, I think it's better not to reply at all. At least provide a link ap> to the manual and where you can read it - even paraphrase it in the ap> message. Feels a lot like thos Linux phpBB, whre you find laughs about your questions or "why would you do that?", man a-holness loud and clear like the '90s >> I've found nice people when getting back to BBSing but some are >> just >> .... ap> Yes, that's the way of everything though.. more so in BBSing I think ap> because more grumpy old men :P ap> I hope you stick around, as there are some good people here, it's an ap> adjustment if you're expecting 1995 - but worth it I think. I haven't ap> checked out your board yet, mostly because I expected it would be in ap> spanish (I can only read english) but hey, might as well find out :) I will, and this is the paragra[h where i reiterate, I'm still trying to get menus translated but when I think about the time it'll take to test with mystic which to be honest it's more complex than RA and no previe or ALT+V everytime you add a single letter is PITA and not worth it, and I know "you get what you get free for". As I mentioned, I want to make it terminator themed and bi-lingual which I think I can handle, I have some time in my hands because my contact ended but I also have a GF and bills piling up, not a teen anymore and the "grumpy ol dmen" gand may be even worse. ap> Andrew Regards David --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.dkynetbbs.com:20023 (21:3/188) .