Subj : In this list? (NET4) To : David Gonzalez From : deon Date : Tue Oct 22 2024 08:55 am Re: In this list? (NET4) By: David Gonzalez to apam on Mon Oct 21 2024 07:23 am Howdy, > True, and as I stated before, not even HUBs are welcoming anymore, now > everybody wants "automation", what for?, so thay tehy don't have to deal > with questions or help newcomers?. anyways as you said, it's a two-way > street, carelesss people and grumy old a-holes, sorry about that but I had > to get it off my chest. I dont agree with this sentiment. Apart from the fact that I'm a hub myself, I also work with many other folks who run hubs - and I most of them have always been helpful and have pride in running their hub - ensuring that it is doing what the folks who use it expect. Why the automation - I've written clrghouz with a lot of automation, and you might be a victim of some of that. Why? For me, its for two reasons: * To identify and notify configuration problems and let the sysop know so that can fix it - especially when those config problems might be affecting their interaction on the net (like messages not being delivered). * I'm a Dad, an Employee, a Husband, a Nerd, a Developer and somewhere in those hours I provide a Hub service to sysops who want to be a part of this hobby. I like to run a clean ship, and doing so requires a lot of mundane repetative tasks - which sometimes also results in errors that affects users of the hub. This tech was "designed" 50 years ago and we have learnt a lot since then. So automation helps alot - and the developer side of me likes creating it. But back to your original comment though, yes, there are people in this hobby who are not helpful, unfriendly, disrespectful, etc - and I can list a few. But I dont need them, and its rare that I interact with them, and I have the "next" key at my disposal. So forget about the unfriendly people and interact with the rest, you'll find t his a more enjoyable place. ....лоеп --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116) .