Subj : fsxNet Feedback (ZeroTier To : N1uro From : Oli Date : Sun May 16 2021 03:39 pm N1uro wrote (2021-05-14): Ol>> I agree. It also would not qualify as Open Source software / Ol>> license. N> Just to try and help offer another possible solution to this issue as a N> network engineer: N> Why not investigate OpenVPN? p2p connections work by default in ZeroTier. Does OpenVPN do any NAT hole punching? A known and simpler alternative would be tinc. OpenVPN has also become kind of old-tech. Is there anything wireguard wouldn't do simpler and better (for our use case)? N> A dedicated hub feed to a european hub N> can set up DNS locally to feed a hub in europe over OpenVPN using either N> TCP or UDP and choose ports, and maintain custom certs that may have a N> long expiration date on them... and then it'd be up to that european hub N> to feed the rest of europe - insuring that their laws are followed. Personally I'm not interested in a top-down approach with admin(s) maintaining certs and granting and revoking access. I would call it unnecessary centralization (bullshit power & small bus factor). FTN are on the lower layer decentralized and designed as "cooperative anarchy". It's not that I don't appreciate your initiative to setup OpenVPN for the network, I just doubt that standard VPNs are a good fit for FTN. (not sure what the European hub and laws part is about) --- * Origin: . (21:3/102) .