Subj : Is binkp/d's security model kaputt?
To   : Oli
From : apam
Date : Sat Sep 18 2021 04:57 pm

 > It's funny that the original topic was about binkd/p and soon we were
 > talking about creating a new message network infrastructure/technology
 > with FTS-compatible access.

Why is binkd even a thing? What's the history of it? I don't know.. Apart
from integrating with the binkley style outbound, why did they make a new
protocol to transfer these messages?

 > I'm more interested in fixing the current software and standards.

Why? The "current" software is kind of unfixable, it would require people
with access to the current software's code having a desire to fix it.

It would also require said people working together...

Look at fsxnet for example, an FTN network, now, I would say 90% of the
network runs mystic software. Not some DOS bbs that saw it's last release
in 1995.

That last 10% probably run synchronet, some other software or a very very
tiny few actually run software (that is connected to fsxnet) from eons
ago.

Even that software that hasn't seen an update since 1995 probably has
message bases compatible with Squish or JAM.

So we could put lipstick on a pig so to say and keep FTN only. FSXnet
isn't fidonet, it doesn't need to be married to the technology - WWIVnet
and DOVEnet both use other systems, so one could create a new network
technology, and have it working with BBSes.

Seems like the nostalgia is for most people things "like" they had in the
90s, not actually things they had in the 90s. Otherwise mystic wouldn't
be so popular. Binkd wasn't a thing that far back either, or "the c64" etc

If you pack this new software in a black box with a curses interface I
bet people wouldn't even care :)

Anyway, it all boils down to nothing if no one can be bothered to write
new software. I think that's the real problem... not enough people care
about security / privacy, just look at a discussion from a few months ago
re: SSH.

Andrew

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