Subj : Re: Is binkp/d's security model kaputt? To : JoE DooM From : Vk3jed Date : Sun Dec 19 2021 08:01 pm -=> On 12-19-21 20:20, JoE DooM wrote to Atreyu <=- JD> Yeah I agree to a point. I think that in all honesty, the type of JD> people that are attracted to BBSs are not the lowest common denomiator JD> type of people. Those people have Facebook (which for all intents and JD> purposes is *literally* old school BBSs with new technology and JD> seriously dumbed down message client)... With some advances (such as multimedia capability, push notifications, etc), and some drawbacks (sucky clients, tightly bound to the network (adds lag to performance, slows reading, though the FB CDN helps a little, by shortening ping times and caching content on servers capable of delivering it faster). JD> I know there are multiple angles on how BBS "modernisation" should JD> work, and that's fine, but the reality is we're doing things the "old JD> way" very intentionally. I feel opening things up too much to the masses could kill the goose that laid our golden egg. Look at how things went downhill with mass access to social media, yet there are still small, close knit groups on Facebook that are quite good, because they're kept small and curated. JD> BBSs went through a modernisation when the Internet came along. And JD> hell, even the online web based forums suffer now because everyone just JD> wants to use Facebook. Online web forums just suck, I never got into them, because of their poor performance and navigation. JD> *shrug* I dunno. But as I said to deon in my last post, I honestly JD> think that if someone wants to change something, they will have to JD> develop it first and people will get onboard. Discussing grand ideas JD> will naturally result in people with different ideas not agreeing, or JD> diluting the ideas so much that nothing will get done. For those who have that capability. JD> --- Talisman v0.35-dev (Linux/x86_64) JD> * Origin: Lost Underground BBS (21:1/230) .... You! What PLANET is this? McCoy, stardate 3134.0. === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109) .