Subj : FTS-1 and FTS-4 To : andrew clarke From : Alexey Vissarionov Date : Sun Nov 11 2018 02:02 am Good ${greeting_time}, andrew! 10 Nov 2018 00:21:32, you wrote to All: ac> Policy4 refers only to FTS-1 with regards to ZMH. Yes. That's why new revision should be named "Technical requirements for a Fidonet node" or somewhat like that. ac> Expanding on Andrew's suggestion, I propose that: ac> 1. FTS-0001.017 should be issued, superceding FTS-0001.016. Yes - it would be just a next edition. Fully rewritten, but next. ac> 2. The newly issued FTS-0001.017 is used solely as a reference ac> document that only points to other documents, for ease of ac> maintenance. Not only references, but the requirements like "dialup nodes must support EMSI protocol as defined in FSC-0056", "IP nodes must support binkp protocol as defined in FTS-1026", "email-based nodes must reply to the PING requests as defined in section 5.10 of FTS-5001 in at most 3 days (72 hours)", "the message editor should support multi-level quoting as defined in FSC-0032" etc. ac> 3. FTS-0001.016 should be renamed FSC-0001.016 FRL-0001.016 (it once was FSC-0001.016 in the past, according to itself). ac> to be used as an historical reference, and is otherwise left ac> completely untouched. This completely bypasses potential issues with ac> the document's copyright. Yes - just add a standard header before the original text ("This document is a part of Fidonet Reference Library (FRL) and preserves the text of FTS-0001.016 obsoleted by newer publications"). ac> 4. We prioritise documenting the required (non-optional) parts of a ac> compatible node, especially Internet nodes, as they are the obvious ac> majority of FidoNet in 2018. That's quite simple: just require accepting uncompressed (this word is much better than "unpacked") PKT2+ bundles over binkp. ac> 5. Ensure these parts are documented separately, again for ease of ac> maintenance, and refer to them in the new FTS-1. Yes: this would require issuing several FSPs and FTSes. ac> 6. (optional, but probably sensible) Have FTS-0001.017 refer to (and ac> apply to) FSC-0001.016 in the case of remaining dialup nodes. Only if we'd find enough FTS-0001.016 dialup nodes not supporting EMSI. And I seriously doubt there is even a single such node left alive. Also, as there always will be some idiots who would try to obstruct this by setting up such nodes, these nodes _must_ be searched among listed at 01 Nov 2018 (well enough to avoid playing with timezones or whatever else). ac> Effectively this would mean the new FTS-1 would apply only to ac> Internet nodes. No: it _must_ apply to any and all nodes regardless of connection type. ac> This could obviously change in future as the need arises, with ac> further issues of FTS-1. Of course. ac> 7. Re-document the optional parts (eg. stored message format) as time ac> and interest permits. In the interim simply refer to the appropriate ac> section in FSC-0001.016. No: the FTS-0001.016 _must_ (in the sence of FTA-1006) be buried in oblivion. -- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii .... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world --- /bin/vi * Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545) .