Subj : FTSC To : Alan Ianson From : Oli Date : Fri Nov 22 2019 09:42 pm ml>> binkd and others already have completely encrypted session ml>> capabilities... even binkit has it ;) AI> They do, and both mailers work very well with that encryption. Do AI> mailers that support CRYPT need to negotiate a session and exchange AI> passwords before the session can be encrypted? Yes, you need a shared session password. It's also not a completely encrypted transmission. AI> Mystic has the ability to encrypt binkp sessions also (it uses AI> cryptlib) although it hasn't fully matured and needs work. AFAIK it uses opportunistic TLS (like STARTTLS). The Internet is moving away from opportunistic encryption (RFC 8314, "Cleartext Considered Obsolete"). Mystics implementation is already a lame duck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_TLS#Weaknesses_and_mitigations AI> I was thinking about this and the posibility of a standard so AI> different mailers could use secure binkp. Alexey said something about AI> secure binkp that made me curious. AI> Would binkp over TLS (or really, any secure method) be a good thing? Why wouldn't it? :) --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: kakistocracy (2:280/464.47) .