Subj : TgM: not exactly the same To : August Abolins From : Charles Pierson Date : Fri Nov 13 2020 06:55 pm Hello, August Abolins. On 11/13/20 6:55 PM you wrote: AA> Hello Charles! ** On Friday 13.11.20 - 16:04, Charles Pierson AA> wrote to August Abolins: AA>>> It's the convenience (portability across devices, even the USB AA>>> version so that you can use *any* pc that is handy at the time) AA>>> of using Telegram is pretty cool. CP>> That's not being made clear, I don't think. A lot of people seem CP>> think it's strictly an app for mobile. AA> I don't know if we can say "a lot of people" yet. ;) The AA> Fido/Telegram merge is still relatively young (about 2 months AA> since a few english-speaking echos have been built) and obscure. Ok, relatively speaking. Comments that I have seen in echos where Telegram is active in, there have been comments that seem to imply that Telegram is a smartphone app exclusively. AA>>> Plus, the way it catalogs links and photos and files, is an AA>>> organizer's dream. And.. all that (files, photos, links) is AA>>> searchable. Finding a message is based on a text string is AA>>> handy too. CP>> Those all sound like cool features. They aren't something that I CP>> personally would use very often, but nice that they are there. AA> Those features are not readily obvious with the tablet/phone AA> apps. But in the desktop version, the program can be operated in AA> full view that includes a side-panel on the right that provides AA> the stats on the number of members, files, photos, and links. AA> The full list of shared files/photos/links is just a single AA> click away. It's practically like a built-in filefix for each AA> echo. I've seen them, I look around apps to see what's there. Just at this point in time, I see their usefulness, but I don't need them myself. For Example, if I touch a Group Name, it comes up to a screen with the description, whether or not notification ate on, then members, media, files and links. Very nice looking. CP>> Actually, moderator aspect aside, which is interesting enough but CP>> I'd have to examine. AA> That can be arranged! Name your echo. Any of them is fine. CP>> It is fairly easy to get phone numbers. There are dozens of apps CP>> out there to do so. I'm not saying it would be worth someone's CP>> time to do so, but it is possible. AA> I looked into that too. The services that provide temporary AA> virtual phone numbers may not be completely reliable. It is best AA> to have a permanent number that you can have full control over. AA> The cost of seeking addtional numbers for the purposes to get AA> around a Fidonet ban could get unnecessarily costly. I said it was possible, if not necessarily worthwhile. But in a fairly short time I set up 3 numbers from 3 apps that I could potentially use to set up a Telegram account with. I'd only actually need the number once. AA>>> The TgM experience doesn't have to be exactly the same AA>>> (taglines, quoting style, and other aspects from echomail AA>>> culture) ..but the basics for allowing participation in AA>>> conversations is still pretty good. CP>> I'm glad to hear you day that, since I've spent so much time CP>> trying to explain that. AA> You can think of the TgM environment as just a different "skin" AA> wrapped around a messaging environment designed for modern AA> personal devices. The appearance can be personalized to the AA> user's delight. From a visual POV, the user is simply accessing AA> Stas' BBS not unlike visiting any other BBS for the message AA> areas. Except that in this case, the TgM appearance is AA> ready-made with some extra bells and whistles courtesy of AA> Telegram technology. Stas' bot provides the behind the scenes AA> hook to fidonet. Actually, it's more like Stas made a BBS on Telegram, which his traditional BBS is the Feed for. It has it's own Node, I believe. -- Best regards! Posted using Hotdoged on Android --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android * Origin: Houston, TX (1:229/426.67) .