Subj : seeking pure and simple
To   : Dennisk
From : August Abolins
Date : Thu May 14 2020 07:39 pm

On 14/05/2020 6:27 a.m., Dennisk : August Abolins wrote:

 DK> Win Me? Oh, I still feel the scars from that OS, and I didn't
 DK> even use it, just provides a little support for it. I moved to
 DK> Linux in 2000, gradually.

I was a bit out of the loop when WinME rolled out, so I was unawares of some of
the problems people reported about it.  But I was in the market for a new 486 pc
to replace an aging 386 and WinME came along with the package from a local shop.

I applied all the tweaks and reg fixes that I eventually learned about.  The
system was quite smooth-running after that.  It was up 24/7 for most of the time
as it was the gateway server to my router/dialup to supply access to the
internet from a couple of other computers I used at home.


 AA>> I managed to overcome that limitation by installing Ubuntu. The
 AA>> pc worked reasonably well for a couple years after that. But
 AA>> the max 2GB ram proved to be a limitation after a few more
 AA>> Ubuntu updates. And again, the browser program was the first
 AA>> sign of "not good enough".

 DK> An alternative was simply to never update your OS, which is what
 DK> I did. It did mean not updating browsers, and software as well,
 DK> but I was able to use Red Hat Linux 7.3 up until 2009 on a
 DK> 700MHz machine with 384M RAM. I don't do that now, as its
 DK> probably not a good practice.

Actually, the last Ubuntu I had on the ex-WinME machine was "ok".  I even
thought of rolling back a version. But the task seemed daunting.  I don't
remember the CPU speed of the pc, but it was just not performing as snappy with
the mp3 processing and browsing as I wanted anymore.  Keep in mind, I was still
on dialup for my internet. So experimenting with other distros was not going to
work.  I received the original Ubuntu from their free rollout of CDs.


 AA>> I don't know what they're doing on Facebook, but it takes at
 AA>> least 15 seconds to load the main page while it takes another
 AA>> 15 secs for all the tracking shit to settle down..

 DK> I think part of it is that the HTTP protocol wasn't designed to
 DK> handle small packets of traffic going back and forth...

Ah.. yeah.  I can't really do anything and get a proper keyboard response until
all that activity has stopped.


 DK> FB is horrible design. I joined because someone was too lazy to
 DK> simply send e-mails.

Same here.  Mostly, my cousins.  One likes to use PicCollage.  I hate that! The
combined picture is too small to appreciate the individual pics.  It's probably
just fine on her 43" screen.  :(   Some people shouldn't be allowed to use a
computer, imho,  :/   People using FB have no sense of computer bandwidth and
efficiency, not to mention privacy (but that's a whole different story).


 DK> A good example of design is the D Language
 DK> Forum at forum.dlang.org. It's web based, simple and FAST.

YES, very!  It loaded in a snap.  Navigation seems instantaneous.  Nicely done.

Something like that for echomail on the web (to replace the current offerings)
would be very nice.


 DK> But
 DK> better still, it's actually a front end to an NNTP backend, so
 DK> you can use a newgroup reader to access it as well. Good use of
 DK> existing technology to solve a problem. This is the way it
 DK> should be done.

I like the nntp option too.  (See below.)  Nicely conceived.

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