Subj : your utils using angel
To   : Jason Hud
From : Donald Tidmore
Date : Mon Dec 03 2007 05:22 am

>> No, I had not heard anything from anyone about that situation.  I don't real
>> understand what an ntvdm error is.
> NTVDM = NT virtual Dos machine
> ntvdm errors occur when 16 bit applications do something 'screwy', for
> example access some inner workings that conflict with windows.

I've seen that sort of thing myself when I test utility programs, but have not 
ever seen it occur while running one of my igms in LORD.  There are some 
specific commands in the ANGEL toolkit that work fine if you are inside LORD 
igms when they occur.  But if you ran the same command in the igm's Setup 
utility, for example, it would immediately cause WinXP to shut down the window 
down.  

With exception of work done last night and early this morning on Lord Gambling 
Casino, Lord Holidays, Gem Trader, and Outlands Tavern, all of my Lord programs 
are fully up-to-date on the Castle Camelot web-site. You might retry some of 
the igms with their most up-to-date version, and let me know if the problems 
show up again.  Right now, I don't have enough information to try to reproduce 
a problem, or figure out what to look at.  The only person who can fix a 
problem if it is inside the ANGEL toolkit itself is Jimmy Rose.  And I've not 
seen him around in these echoes in a long time.  I think he's a college 
student, and he may simply be too busy to work on his toolkit.  

> the pawn shop in particular causes this error in some of the shop sections,
> and i've seen it in a few other igms. i didnt say anything because they were
> in beta, i probably should have reported them sooner. i thought i simply had
> older betas and they were fixed.

I appreciate the information but right now I can't do anything about those 
problems.  Just not enough details to pinpoint what might be causing the 
problems.  It would be nice to know for example if the same NTVDM error 
occurred in the same igm on two separate bbs software programs.  That would 
probably indicate the problem was related to interaction between IGM and BBS 
software and the Operating system. Not that it would help that much on my end 
knowing that was the case. But if the problem can be reproduced then Dennis 
Collins or someone else probably can identify the gremlin and kill it for me.

Donald.

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