Subj : Re: zone 4 ping
To   : Ward Dossche
From : Flavio Bessa
Date : Mon Apr 15 2024 11:59 am

On 13 Apr 2024, Ward Dossche said the following...
 
 WD> 1) You (meaning Z4) need to shed R92 ... it is useless, always has been
 WD> from the very beginning. He was one of those guys that pops-up out of
 WD> nowhere, think they have all the answers, will save Fidonet, make it
 WD> bloom again, claim to offer no-nonsense links to everything and
 WD> everyone, run out-dated backbones, in doing so disrupt echomail
 WD> distribution and netmail routing, whithin 6 months they drop from the
 WD> radar having a VPN somewhere they forgot about. There is at least one
 WD> otherone like that I can point to in the nodelist...  

    Unfortunately,the fault is mine here. I usually scan the region for isolated systems and get them to join the zone - I was really excited to get an old region back online and it turned out not to be the case. 

    I have requested Manuel over netmail to shed R92, let's see what he will do, usually the nodelist changes are published every Tuesday. 

 WD> 2) Talk to the other live RCs/nodes and just decide amongst yourselves to
 WD> appoint a new ZC4, I'm not talking about the P4 impeachment procedure
 WD> which is very unpractical. Just do it. It implies also a new RC90, a new
 WD> NC900 and a new NC902 because otherwise you will lose access to all
 WD> those nodes. Don't forget, you are one of these nodes and while you feel
 WD> commitment for change, perhaps you could be the next NC902?

    I do support that, but the problem is that we don't have 100% support on R90 to do this. I think we can find a negotiated solution, let's see how it goes. 

 WD> 3) Create a new region and name it "America Latina", move all the
 WD> existing nets 'as is' to that new region ... you just need to find a new
 WD> NC900 ... and have that new region hosted in either Z1 or Z2, both make
 WD> sense. Z1 because of geographical perception perhaps and then the zone
 WD> could be renamed "The_Americas" per Dan Clough's suggestion, or Z2
 WD> because of the Spanish linguistic link. ZC1 and I already discussed it
 WD> and whatever makes you happy, will make us happy and get our
 WD> cooperation. I haven't mentioned it to Scott Little ZC3 but I'm certain
 WD> he'll see the practicality of it too ... or maybe you could all become
 WD> Australians... 8-)  
 WD> OK?

    I believe that would be a last resort... I still think we can have a negotiated solution out of it. 

 WD> These are the solutions and tools from how I see it. Please share your
 WD> thoughts with us and let's get going General Patton's words in mind
 WD> "Either lead, follow or get out of the way".

    Let's see how things unfold. I am eager to see the results of R80 cleanup, R92 removal, and R88 back online as promised. 

Regards,
Flavio

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